The troopers I've encountered seem to act in the interest of public safety. If they think a warning will give you the hint to slow down, they'll give a warning. If for some reason they think it'll take a fine to make you slow down, they write a citation. I've been warned for 85 in a 70 by a State Trooper while heading to Lubbock for freshman orientation. I learned quickly that US 84 between Sweetwater and Lubbock is 120 miles of speed trap.txinvestigator wrote:Most Troopers I know have a 5MPH tolerance for speed limits 70 and up. There are many reasons you may have been warned at 9 over rather than written a ticket. I imagine your CHL had a lot to do with it, but we have also read of people getting cited who have CHLs.
It took him as long to write the warning as it would have a cite.
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My Mother-In-Law got a ticket back in early December on her way into Texas. Ticket was for 84 in a 70. Trooper told her if it was 80 or below he could have given her a warning. I think it really is a discretionary measure with them all on if/when they write a warning vs. a ticket since I know others who have gotten off with a verbal even going faster.txinvestigator wrote:Most Troopers I know have a 5MPH tolerance for speed limits 70 and up. There are many reasons you may have been warned at 9 over rather than written a ticket. I imagine your CHL had a lot to do with it, but we have also read of people getting cited who have CHLs.
It took him as long to write the warning as it would have a cite.
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Of course it is discretionary. That's why I said, "most troopers I know", AND I was referring to the tolerance for making a stop.Keith B wrote:My Mother-In-Law got a ticket back in early December on her way into Texas. Ticket was for 84 in a 70. Trooper told her if it was 80 or below he could have given her a warning. I think it really is a discretionary measure with them all on if/when they write a warning vs. a ticket since I know others who have gotten off with a verbal even going faster.txinvestigator wrote:Most Troopers I know have a 5MPH tolerance for speed limits 70 and up. There are many reasons you may have been warned at 9 over rather than written a ticket. I imagine your CHL had a lot to do with it, but we have also read of people getting cited who have CHLs.
It took him as long to write the warning as it would have a cite.
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The DPS manual does not spell out when a trooper can or can't give a warning... it simply says for "minor offences" which covers a lot of ground...
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Keith B wrote:My Mother-In-Law got a ticket back in early December on her way into Texas. Ticket was for 84 in a 70. Trooper told her if it was 80 or below he could have given her a warning. I think it really is a discretionary measure with them all on if/when they write a warning vs. a ticket since I know others who have gotten off with a verbal even going faster.txinvestigator wrote:Most Troopers I know have a 5MPH tolerance for speed limits 70 and up. There are many reasons you may have been warned at 9 over rather than written a ticket. I imagine your CHL had a lot to do with it, but we have also read of people getting cited who have CHLs.
It took him as long to write the warning as it would have a cite.
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On most divided interstate highways speeds under 10 mph over do not count against your insurance rates but a ticket 10+ mph over not only costs you a fine but when your insurance company reviews your record you my be surprised at the rate increase.IIRC on undivided 2 lane roads and on a street in the city limits any speedig violation regardless of miles over will count against insurance premiums.Also excessive speed gives an LEO probable cause to stop,and a lot of times a traffic stop can lead to anythng from drug trafficking to other types of evidence the officer may spot during the stop.
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It's not 10MPH, it's >10% of the posted limit that makes the biggest difference...dukalmighty wrote:On most divided interstate highways speeds under 10 mph over do not count against your insurance rates but a ticket 10+ mph over not only costs you a fine but when your insurance company reviews your record you my be surprised at the rate increase.IIRC on undivided 2 lane roads and on a street in the city limits any speedig violation regardless of miles over will count against insurance premiums.Also excessive speed gives an LEO probable cause to stop,and a lot of times a traffic stop can lead to anythng from drug trafficking to other types of evidence the officer may spot during the stop.
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Ok, I have seen many Texas DL returns, and they say "speeding"...they don't say how fast, or what type of highway/how many lanes there were. How do the insurance companies know?
(edited to say I see the TLETS law enforcement returns, do insurers have access to different stats)
BTW, gettin a warning for 15 over is lucky
(edited to say I see the TLETS law enforcement returns, do insurers have access to different stats)
BTW, gettin a warning for 15 over is lucky
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I believe that it does not show up on the TLETS or Insurance rreturns if it is not a moving violation,as defined by the Administrative Code. So DPS will not pu tthe speeding <10% over the limit on the driving record at all. But I cannot verify this. I do not have any but the public contacts in DPS Licensing and Records divisions.
I believe that it does not show up on the TLETS or Insurance rreturns if it is not a moving violation,as defined by the Administrative Code. So DPS will not pu tthe speeding <10% over the limit on the driving record at all. But I cannot verify this. I do not have any but the public contacts in DPS Licensing and Records divisions.
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