Need help with Beretta 92 grip

[Gordon C]

Jlaw,

Couple of things........

1) Steve is right (no surprize ) concerning IDPA rules and starting the stage with your hammer down and the safety off.

2) HIGHLY doubt that there is a mechanical issue with the gun.

3) Simple test..... Place the gun in you weak hand and shoot several magazines through the gun. If the problem does not occur, then it is not mechanical and more than likely your grip.

Hope this helps.

Gordon

[age_ranger]

So, is it the safety/decocker actually moving to the "ON" position or is it that the hammer decocks after a shot? It's possible to have the SA notch of the hammer wear or have issues with the sear/sear spring which allow the hammer to drop after a shot which would give the shooter the idea that the safety/decocker lever had been actuated. The sear is not used in a DA shot on the 92, only in single action, so if the hammer is following the slide forward, I'd look at the hammer/sear contact areas for your problem. Otherwise, if the safety/decocker IS flipping somehow, lock your slide back and see how freely it moves. Could be another issue.

[Wildscar]

Also in IDPA match's if the firearm has a safety feature it is suppose to be on when in a match. The fact that you leave it off to shoot IDPA might be considered cheating.

Um, no; not quite correct.

The rules specifically note that DA, DAO, and Safe Action pistols play in SSP. JLaw's Beretta qualifies in SSP. On his pistol--and many others--the device is not a safety, it's a decocker. His Beretta is designed to be carried with the mechanism decocked and in "double-action" mode for the first round. Subsequent rounds are single-action. And that's legal in IDPA.

Single-action-only pistols in ESP and CDP (i.e., Browning models like the 1911), should be readied cocked-and-locked at the "Load and make ready" command.

I use a 92FS in IDPA. If thats the case I'm going to start leaving mine off in IDPA matches. I just thought I heard someone tell me that if it had a saftey then it had to be used. Maybe I heard something out of contexts about something else. Sorry for the miss infromation.

Age ranger had a point if the hammer is not staying back after a couple shots it might be the ammo you are using. A light load might not be enough to fully move the slide back but far enough to eject the spent casing. This happend to me in one match with a light load out of a WWB. Just one possiability. But all in all I would let someone take a look at it.

[JLaw]

Jlaw,

Couple of things........

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3) Simple test..... Place the gun in you weak hand and shoot several magazines through the gun. If the problem does not occur, then it is not mechanical and more than likely your grip.

Hope this helps.

Gordon

Thanks, I'll give this a try. Appreciate the tip.

age_ranger- The safety-decocker is actually moving to the 'on safe' position, and I have to thumb the safety 'off' to continue firing. I have never had an instance where it looked like the hammer fell past the sear and the safety was still in the 'off' posistion. I will lock the slide back and check the safety tonight, hopefully SRVA can take a look at it if I make it out there tonight.

Wildscar - The ammo I'm shooting is Remington UMC. It feels a little stouter than WWB when fired through my S&W 908. Like stated earlier I don't think it's an ammo problem, the safety is in the 'on safe' position when I have the problem.

Thanks for all the help guys, I'll post any updates.

JLaw

[Jeremae]

Josh

Were you shooting the Berreta in my squad? If so you were preparing the gun properly by decocking with lever then returning the lever to previous position(off safe). I can't remember for certain but I thing you use a grip with the weak (left) thumb sticking almost straight up (someone did but I try to be more concerned with where the muzzle is pointed and trigger finger is than overall grip)

[age_ranger]

You could have an issue with the hammer release lever. Maybe it got bent and is flipping the safety on during recoil. Odd, but that's the only thing I can think of unless your safely/decocker lever is broken. Double check that your hammer release lever on the frame is not bent or broken. If you lock the slide back, is the safety/decocker easily manipulated? Might check your safety plunger and spring to see that they're installed correctly as well.

Here's a quick reference for maintenance...........

http://www.berettaservices.com/Moduli/C ... erie92.pdf

[SRVA]

No mechanical problems, just some grip adjustment needed.

[JLaw]

No mechanical problems, just some grip adjustment needed.

Yup, that's it! Thanks to SRVA and GordonC for taking the time to help me out with this. Pistol inspection showed it to be a-okay. The conclusion we came to is that I'm getting lazy with my strong hand thumb and it is striking the safety lever. I'll just have to pay close attention to my grip for a while.

Jeremae - No, I was in Dave's (?) squad, squad 4. Luckily my weak hand thumb stays glued to the frame in a forward position.

age_ranger thanks for the link to the exploded veiws, those will come in handy some day!

JLaw