Voting question

[LDB415]

I'm curious, how does anyone who frequents these forums and claims to be for the Second Amendment vote for democrats? From comments found here apparently some are voting for democrats. How is that possible?

[EP45]

I would love to see some individuals who voted democrat answer. I have voted democrat for a family member, I don’t believe a Republican running. I have voted in democratic primaries to try and get a weaker candidate to run against the republicans so republicans had better chance of winning (rare-and probably not good idea). I think there are some second amendment democrats and they are focusing on other issues.

Saw a recent man on the street interview program about reasons for voting for Beto or Abbott. One guy said he was voting for Beto because that guy was a pothead and wanted marijuana legal, wanted women to be able to have abortions, but didn’t think Beto would be able to push his anti-gun agenda (guy claimed gun rights high on his own personal list——IDIOT).

[Paladin]

I can't recall the last time I voted for a Democrat, but the main answer I can think of is habit. I was talking to guy the other day who lives near me and had no idea what the Soros DA Creuzot was actually doing to our community. Creuzot’s ‘Reforms’ Falter: Crime Still High John Creuzot hasn’t sought death penalty as Dallas County DA. His opponent says she will

With our failed legacy media ignorance is a thing as well. There were 2nd Amendment voters for Biden who the media kept ignorant of his plans.

[srothstein]

I do not usually vote for Democrats, but I have done so in the past. I will always put the person first and not the party. There are some Democrats who support gun rights no matter what the party says or does, especially in Texas at the local level.

I also know that there are people who supports gun rights but are not single issue voters. I am not a single issue voter, though I do place gun rights as my highest priority issue. I am guessing that there are others who do not place it quite as highly as I do and could decide some other issue is their particular bellwether for deciding how to vote.

[RPBrown]

I, like srothstein, have voted for "some" democrats in the years past. However, they were few and far between and had the same stance on some of my top issues. Now, for at least since Reagan, I have been a straight ticket voter for the most part. If there is a known RINO in the mix, I wont vote for either party but for an Independent if one is running.

[The Annoyed Man]

I haven’t voted democrat since my vote for Bill Clinton during his first campaign. Up to that point, I voted democrat purely reflexively. I voted democrat because my parents were democrats, and that’s the environment I was raised in. Until passage of Clinton’s AWB, I didn’t follow 2A issues very much. I believed that the 2A was generally a good thing, but I wasn’t any kind of activist for (or against) it. I owned one gun…my dad's WW2 bring-back 1911A1, which I inherited from him after his death in 1990. Up until then, my lifetime gun experience had been pretty much limited to BB guns, and plinking with a friend's .22 rifle. Oh, and I owned a Benjamin .22 caliber pellet pistol. But when the AWB passed, it was a bridge too far, and I left the DNC.

I cast my first vote as a republican for Bob Dole, against Clinton. My last vote as a republican was for Mitt Romney. I left the GOP after that, thinking that if he was the best the GOP could do, then it was a dying party. I believe that more today than ever before. The GOP has a chronic case of shooting itself in the foot nearly every time it has a chance to make a difference.

I flirted briefly with the LP after that, but was disenchanted by its emphasis on legalizing pot. I do believe it should be legalized…at least for personal growing and use…but this country has WAY BIGGER problems than legal weed, and the LP doesn’t provide any coherent leadership in any of those other areas in a way that resonates with voters like me who are disenfranchised by the two Gog and Magog parties. That is why I describe myself as a philosophical libertarian and a minarchist, but refuse to join that party. I am done with parties, and I remain quite happily an independent. My highest political value is personal liberty.

As to my voting patterns since 2012, I haven’t yet voted for a democrat. The democrats I am confronted with are leftists, and they are guided by satan, whether or not they believe he exists. In fact, satan's most successful lie is that he doesn’t exist, and way too many democrats dance to his tune for me to be in any way comfortable with voting for a democrat. If you vote for a democrat because he/she is more or less pro-2A, you’re also voting for a whole host of other collectivist evils. Those democrats need support from their party…as all politicians do…and that means that they must reciprocate by supporting a whole other raft of commie cow manure. I just can’t bring myself to do it.

BUT… I don’t automatically vote for the republican either. The GOP doesn’t really deserve my automatic vote. In many cases…particularly for judgeships…if there’s a libertarian candidate running, I’ll vote for him or her. For statewide offices like governor, I’ll vote for a republican—as long as I know something about the candidate's prior political record and it meets with my general approval. But it’s not automatic. I’ll happily vote for a libertarian if the GOP isn’t offering a great choice. Any republican running these days has to EARN my vote…BEFORE I’ll vote for them. They can no longer count on my vote as an article of faith.

When it comes to the GOP, I don’t give a hoot about words. I only care about deeds. Talk is cheap, and too many republicans have talked the talk to get elected, but didn’t walk the walk in office. Conversely, as the democrat voter base has shifted leftward, the DNC has done a pretty good job of shifting leftward with them. In other words, the DNC does a way better job of representing the interests of its voter base than the GOP does. So republican candidates, SHOW me why you should have my vote. And if what you show me doesn’t have my personal liberty at its core, then go sell your crazy somewhere else.

According to my particular understanding of biblical end times eschatology, we are not yet in the end times…but we ARE in the times that seem to be leading into the end times. Things ARE getting worse, the DNC is leading the way in that direction (and is therefore serving satan), and the GOP seems fecklessly powerless to counter it. In a twist on Clausewitz, it’s rapidly becoming true that rather than war being merely politics by other means, politics has become war by other means. The DNC is making political war on America, and the GOP is failing to rise to the challenge. They still think they’re playing at politics, and they lack the stomach for political warfare.

There is no voting our way out of this.

[chasfm11]

According to my particular understanding of biblical end times eschatology, we are not yet in the end times…but we ARE in the times that seem to be leading into the end times. Things ARE getting worse, the DNC is leading the way in that direction (and is therefore serving satan), and the GOP seems fecklessly powerless to counter it. In a twist on Clausewitz, it’s rapidly becoming true that rather than war being merely politics by other means, politics has become war by other means. The DNC is making political war on America, and the GOP is failing to rise to the challenge. They still think they’re playing at politics, and they lack the stomach for political warfare.

There is no voting our way out of this.

The DNC has been co-opted by the Elites, much the same way that one party in every country which allows multiple points of view has likewise been cooped. It is not the Democratic party of old. I detest much of the Republican party but there is not choice but to try to co-opt that voter base to thwart the now co-opted Democrats. I, too, made the mistake of votiing for Democrats in the past, the worst of which I consider to be Jimmy Carter. He sounded good, was a smart, principled man but he was a terrible leader and I helped to make him one. I think Romeny, if he had ascended to the Presidency would have been much, much worse than Carter - and I was foolish enough to vote for him, too.

I'm crossing my fingers that the most current crop of Republicans contesting offices will succeed in their elections and actually carry through with their promises. Kari Lake, for example, may win and may also be the first elected official that the Washington ghouls target for DOJ action to remove her from office. I personally believe that much of the DNC success is because they are hideously bellicose and use every scrap of political power within their reach to intimidate anyone, including within their own party, who dares to oppose them. Somehow, we have to break Soro's stranglehold over the direction of the country. It is going to take a lot more Lake and DeSantis types. It could turn ugly if the Congress actually starts opposing the Bureacracy but I believe we are no where near that yet - and may never get close.

[mayor]

According to my particular understanding of biblical end times eschatology, we are not yet in the end times…but we ARE in the times that seem to be leading into the end times. Things ARE getting worse, the DNC is leading the way in that direction (and is therefore serving satan), and the GOP seems fecklessly powerless to counter it. In a twist on Clausewitz, it’s rapidly becoming true that rather than war being merely politics by other means, politics has become war by other means. The DNC is making political war on America, and the GOP is failing to rise to the challenge. They still think they’re playing at politics, and they lack the stomach for political warfare.

There is no voting our way out of this.

The DNC has been co-opted by the Elites, much the same way that one party in every country which allows multiple points of view has likewise been cooped. It is not the Democratic party of old. I detest much of the Republican party but there is not choice but to try to co-opt that voter base to thwart the now co-opted Democrats. I, too, made the mistake of votiing for Democrats in the past, the worst of which I consider to be Jimmy Carter. He sounded good, was a smart, principled man but he was a terrible leader and I helped to make him one. I think Romeny, if he had ascended to the Presidency would have been much, much worse than Carter - and I was foolish enough to vote for him, too.

I'm crossing my fingers that the most current crop of Republicans contesting offices will succeed in their elections and actually carry through with their promises. Kari Lake, for example, may win and may also be the first elected official that the Washington ghouls target for DOJ action to remove her from office. I personally believe that much of the DNC success is because they are hideously bellicose and use every scrap of political power within their reach to intimidate anyone, including within their own party, who dares to oppose them. Somehow, we have to break Soro's stranglehold over the direction of the country. It is going to take a lot more Lake and DeSantis types. It could turn ugly if the Congress actually starts opposing the Bureacracy but I believe we are no where near that yet - and may never get close.

The elites also co-opted the TEA party and absorbed it so it was no longer as effective. I guess my point is "the elites" control most everything and The People are mostly ignored.