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anygunanywhere wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:21 pm Regardless of one's opinion on obnoxious behavior, the fact that parents are supporting their children in attending these satanic exhibitions is far worse than what the protesters did. Anyone who can't fathom this truth needs to rethink their morals.
You’re absolutely right. The flip side is that it’s evident that some of our communities are already well on their way to becoming open sewers, and that’s a fact. How do we confront that, without getting real ugly about it?
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anygunanywhere wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:21 pm Regardless of one's opinion on obnoxious behavior, the fact that parents are supporting their children in attending these satanic exhibitions is far worse than what the protesters did. Anyone who can't fathom this truth needs to rethink their morals.
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ajwakeboarder wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:51 am
Paladin wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:28 pm
K.Mooneyham wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:31 am I remember, not oh so long ago, a certain "pro-2A activist" who shall remain nameless (and who I do not support) was harassed by police for walking along a roadside with a slung AR. So, explain to me why HE received that treatment, but why those armed leftwingers were not at least contacted by the police there. Does that little show on the sidewalk not rise to meet TPC 42.01 (a)(8), "displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;"? Seems like Roanoke PD could have done a better job.

EDITED TO ADD: I contacted Roanoke PD to ask about this. I highly doubt I will get a message back, but if I do, I will share the gist of it here.
Thanks for doing that!

Sec. 1702.323 indicates that "An individual described by Subsection (a) who carries a firearm in the course of employment must obtain a private security officer commission under this chapter."

That alone would appear to be a legal violation, unless they have a Level III security license.
Were they being compensated? If not, It would be hard to argue that they were carrying in course of employment. I honestly don't really care about antifa carrying. They have a right to carry as long as they don't break any other laws. I have an issue with the venue inviting children to this event.
There are very good reasons why security guards are required to have training, and armed security guards are required to have even more training. Even then experience shows as a group security officers are far from perfect.
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Come to find out, I know a guy that lives in the building (apartments up top and retail/restaurants on the ground level) where this sewer is located. He saw the commotion outside and went out the backdoors...ran into four or 5 little anteeefa shrimps all kitted out in black, face coverings etc (5'4" 105 lbs each to quote him :biggrinjester: )...he said he saw one of them hiding in the bushes - told the little punk that doing that was a REALLY good way to get shot...he and fellow tenants will be discussing this situation with the landlord... :tiphat:
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PUCKER wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:08 pm Come to find out, I know a guy that lives in the building (apartments up top and retail/restaurants on the ground level) where this sewer is located. He saw the commotion outside and went out the backdoors...ran into four or 5 little anteeefa shrimps all kitted out in black, face coverings etc (5'4" 105 lbs each to quote him :biggrinjester: )...he said he saw one of them hiding in the bushes - told the little punk that doing that was a REALLY good way to get shot...he and fellow tenants will be discussing this situation with the landlord... :tiphat:
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I got married and had a child at 18(almost 19) years old. Trying to go to college and pay bills, I figured a night time security job was a good idea. Correct me if I am wrong but my memory was that I had to be 21 to be an armed guard and it was a special license that required special training. How special I do not know but I know it was much more effort.

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03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:40 pm I got married and had a child at 18(almost 19) years old. Trying to go to college and pay bills, I figured a night time security job was a good idea. Correct me if I am wrong but my memory was that I had to be 21 to be an armed guard and it was a special license that required special training. How special I do not know but I know it was much more effort.
I was an armed guard at 19.

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I’m presently a Level III Armed Security Officer working for a company that subcontracts to an ER. My “special” training consisted of a 4 day class, and passing an exam. I had to demonstrate enough fire arms proficiency to basically not shoot myself. A Police Officer I am not.
Security Officers are not Law Enforcement. We’re last ditch protection. Kind of like that little.380 BUG. We serve our purpose on a day to day basis. But in a high risk situation, or when trouble is expected, you need Law Enforcement (real cops) on sight.
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The FBI has identified a number of patriotic groups as violent extremists. The position of the democrat party is that the NRA is a domestic terror organization. It's illegal in the state of Texas for members of criminal street games to possess firearms. But these guys show up with their semi-auto rifles, wearing masks to obscure their identities using comms devices to organize, and we are all just supposed to pretend that they don't exist and that this never happened.

Fortunately it doesn't seem like anyone was shot at this event, but I'm sure that the media would be quickly trying to bury the story had one of these masked mercenaries killed someone. Of course if one of the "protesters" shot someone it would be headline news for days.

We are under an awful lot of scrutiny, and it is not going to be fair.

Antifa should be labeled domestic terrorists, "violent extremists", criminal street gang, or whatever. There are a lot of very bad people in those masks and carrying that flag. We should know a lot more about the group of people who showed up at this event with masks and guns, of course we'll never learn any of it from any mainstream media source.

*edited to be more polite.
Bolton Strid wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:59 pm
ajwakeboarder wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:51 am I honestly don't really care about antifa carrying. They have a right to carry as long as they don't break any other laws.
You don't say. Considering the sort of conduct they engage in they shouldn't be able to legally carry as little as a slingshot. This is the SAME bunch that has been engaging in bullying and terrorizing a young lady just for exercising her 1st Amendment rights.

https://humanevents.com/2022/08/10/meet ... -in-texas/

"If you think Antifa are not operating in large numbers in Texas, you are sadly incorrect. I’m a 22-year-old from Denton, Texas and an unapologetic conservative activist. I spent much of my time at the University of North Texas, from which I just graduated, leading its main conservative student group, the Young Conservatives of Texas. And for that, Antifa and the far-left here have sought to intimidate me into silence by doxxing me and my family, and threatening me with violence and even death."

"My first experience with far-left extremists from the Dallas-Fort Worth area was during my senior year at UNT when I began to speak about my political and religious beliefs. In October 2021, I organized a pro-life prayer vigil on campus. But what was intended to be a quiet and somber evening quickly turned into a nightmare."

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"After that second event, the far-left escalated their targeting by going after me outside of campus. That semester the Daily Beast published a smear piece against my brother and me titled, “The Conservative Twins Behind Transphobic Campus Hate Campaigns in Texas.” The hit piece was co-written by socialist activist Steven Monacelli, a far-left radical himself who is currently being sued for libel by a Texas newspaper. He has had his own history of violent extremism reported by The Post Millennial."

"After the article was published, threats against me increased exponentially. Most of the targeted harassment and threats were aimed at making me feel unsafe wherever I was. I also became a victim of identity theft and bank fraud. Doxxing, where one’s personal information including address, phone number, or banking information is released, is part of the modus operandi of Antifa."

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One UNT student and a member of the John Brown Gun Club, Garrett Lee, threatened me on Twitter: “For legal reasons, this is a direct threat. Enjoy your kneecaps while you’ve still got them.” I reported it t­­­o campus police, but again, nothing happened.

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Still think they're responsible enough to be carrying firearms around?
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"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." Mike Vanderboegh

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