Uvalde School shooting

[J.R.@A&M]

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Am I missing the age requirement somewhere?

Yes, you are. The precedent is in the "Age of majority" requirements in law of various rights (speech, ownership, and firearms).

[AF-Odin]

As well as the USC that defines the Militia particularly the Unorganized Militia which is specifically NOT the National Guard as being all Males between the ages of 18 and 45.

[philip964]

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/ ... 7-million/

Ohio responds with guns and money.

[philip964]

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/uvald ... g-response

Sounds like the class room door was unlocked, even though there was gun fire outside, before the BG entered the school.

Police Chief didn’t understand he was in charge.

Purposely didn’t bring his radio as it would slow him down.

BG locked the classroom door and they spent 40 minutes trying to get a key.

School classrooms all have windows to the out side.

[crazy2medic]

As a Firefighter and Paramedic, retiring as a Lieutenant that radio is your life line, it goes EVERYWHERE you do! So somebody is covering for the fact they forgot their radio!

[bbhack]

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/uvald ... g-response

Sounds like the class room door was unlocked, even though there was gun fire outside, before the BG entered the school.

Police Chief didn’t understand he was in charge.

Purposely didn’t bring his radio as it would slow him down.

BG locked the classroom door and they spent 40 minutes trying to get a key.

School classrooms all have windows to the out side.

I have not been there, but looking at the school on google maps, all classrooms have exterior walls, and I assume, windows.

Some of these "first responders" are Scot Petersons.

[Daddio-on-patio]

As a Firefighter and Paramedic, retiring as a Lieutenant that radio is your life line, it goes EVERYWHERE you do! So somebody is covering for the fact they forgot their radio!

Absolutely Brother!

[Grayling813]

Wouldn’t the alleged shoes of the victim be evidence? Also, how do the shoes have no blood stains on them in light of McConaghey’s claim that those were the only way to identify the body?
Obviously though the picture on the left could be photoshopped….

[The Annoyed Man]

As well as the USC that defines the Militia particularly the Unorganized Militia which is specifically NOT the National Guard as being all Males between the ages of 18 and 45.

I’ve had that conversion before with others. My take is this…

The 2A doesn’t say "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of militia members to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

What it says is, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Thus, you do not lose your RKBA simply because you are beyond the age of 45—which was 25 years ago for me personally. The 2A doesn’t say your RKBA is age dependent. It says it shall not be infringed.

Absent age-of-majority laws, theoretically you would have the right from birth. In a virtuous society, it is the minor child's parents who determine if and when the child is mature enough to begin to exercise their RKBA…not the state. In fact, the founders wrote emphatically about the role of virtue in self-governance and liberty:
https://sovereignnations.com/2019/04/12 ... e-freedom/

Both George Washington and John Adams stated unequivocally that our system of gov’t won’t work without a virtuous population. Why else do you think that the left is doing everything it can to eliminate virtuosity in our youth? The DNC can’t come right out and say that they reject our constitutional republic and seek to overthrow it. They would be tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. Instead, they go after capturing our children by deliberately attempting to disconnect them from virtuosity.

Nobody with a brain can argue the importance of this. How many of us were around firearms from a young age, with nary an issue? How did this not result in mass shootings and a plague of accidental homicides? It didn’t result in those things—at least not nearly to the extent that they do today—because we made the cardinal virtues a regular part of child-rearing and education. Today, instead of teaching the virtues, we teach our children to explore the teacher's personal sexual pathologies and to learn how to put on drag queen makeup. Instead of learning about American exceptionalism's basis in liberty, they learn about America's systemic racism and gender oppression. They learn about the "unfairness" of capitalism instead of the horrors of communism. They lear; that right and wrong are relative. And on and on and on.

The left is an existential threat to our nation's political health.

[srothstein]

Thus, you do not lose your RKBA simply because you are beyond the age of 45—which was 25 years ago for me personally. The 2A doesn’t say your RKBA is age dependent. It says it shall not be infringed.

I have argued that this last part does make it absolute, no matter what Biden claims.

The First may be not absolute because it simply says Congress shall make no law, which leaves other possible restrictions allowable. The Third is not absolute because it says "except in a manner prescribed by law." The Fourth is not absolute because it only forbids unreasonable searches and seizures. Similarly, there are exceptions or unusual clauses making most of the others not quite absolute. But "shall not be infringed" is an absolute restriction on the government.

[Vol Texan]

Thus, you do not lose your RKBA simply because you are beyond the age of 45—which was 25 years ago for me personally. The 2A doesn’t say your RKBA is age dependent. It says it shall not be infringed.

I have argued that this last part does make it absolute, no matter what Biden claims.

The First may be not absolute because it simply says Congress shall make no law, which leaves other possible restrictions allowable. The Third is not absolute because it says "except in a manner prescribed by law." The Fourth is not absolute because it only forbids unreasonable searches and seizures. Similarly, there are exceptions or unusual clauses making most of the others not quite absolute. But "shall not be infringed" is an absolute restriction on the government.

This, sir, is quite possibly the best thing I’ve read all month.

[troglodyte]

As well as the USC that defines the Militia particularly the Unorganized Militia which is specifically NOT the National Guard as being all Males between the ages of 18 and 45.

I’ve had that conversion before with others. My take is this…

The 2A doesn’t say "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of militia members to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

What it says is, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Thus, you do not lose your RKBA simply because you are beyond the age of 45—which was 25 years ago for me personally. The 2A doesn’t say your RKBA is age dependent. It says it shall not be infringed.

Absent age-of-majority laws, theoretically you would have the right from birth. In a virtuous society, it is the minor child's parents who determine if and when the child is mature enough to begin to exercise their RKBA…not the state. In fact, the founders wrote emphatically about the role of virtue in self-governance and liberty:
https://sovereignnations.com/2019/04/12 ... e-freedom/

Both George Washington and John Adams stated unequivocally that our system of gov’t won’t work without a virtuous population. Why else do you think that the left is doing everything it can to eliminate virtuosity in our youth? The DNC can’t come right out and say that they reject our constitutional republic and seek to overthrow it. They would be tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail. Instead, they go after capturing our children by deliberately attempting to disconnect them from virtuosity.

Nobody with a brain can argue the importance of this. How many of us were around firearms from a young age, with nary an issue? How did this not result in mass shootings and a plague of accidental homicides? It didn’t result in those things—at least not nearly to the extent that they do today—because we made the cardinal virtues a regular part of child-rearing and education. Today, instead of teaching the virtues, we teach our children to explore the teacher's personal sexual pathologies and to learn how to put on drag queen makeup. Instead of learning about American exceptionalism's basis in liberty, they learn about America's systemic racism and gender oppression. They learn about the "unfairness" of capitalism instead of the horrors of communism. They lear; that right and wrong are relative. And on and on and on.

The left is an existential threat to our nation's political health.

And yet again, TAM states so elegantly and concisely the thoughts muddled in my grey matter. Thank you sir!

[Paladin]

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/uvald ... g-response

Sounds like the class room door was unlocked, even though there was gun fire outside, before the BG entered the school.

Police Chief didn’t understand he was in charge.

Purposely didn’t bring his radio as it would slow him down.

BG locked the classroom door and they spent 40 minutes trying to get a key.

School classrooms all have windows to the out side.

The early reports say that there were ORDERS not to go in the school. Someone gave those orders. For them to be followed it had to be the person in charge. Standard procedure is not to wait, but go in immediately. That did not happen because someone in authority gave the order.

The report from the unarmed mom who went in the building was that no police were inside. She got in the building without a key, while the chief ordered law enforcement to stay out.

Besides, when you have an active shooter you don't need keys. You shoot the door open.

Also, obviously you can engage the shooter from outside through the windows... again, no key required.

I wish the chief would say his lies under oath so he could get some add on charges.

[Paladin]

Wouldn’t the alleged shoes of the victim be evidence? Also, how do the shoes have no blood stains on them in light of McConaghey’s claim that those were the only way to identify the body?
Obviously though the picture on the left could be photoshopped….

Those don't look like little kids shoes, so I believe it. More acting from Hollyweird

[K.Mooneyham]

https://www.fox26houston.com/news/uvald ... g-response

Sounds like the class room door was unlocked, even though there was gun fire outside, before the BG entered the school.

Police Chief didn’t understand he was in charge.

Purposely didn’t bring his radio as it would slow him down.

BG locked the classroom door and they spent 40 minutes trying to get a key.

School classrooms all have windows to the out side.

The early reports say that there were ORDERS not to go in the school. Someone gave those orders. For them to be followed it had to be the person in charge. Standard procedure is not to wait, but go in immediately. That did not happen because someone in authority gave the order.

The report from the unarmed mom who went in the building was that no police were inside. She got in the building without a key, while the chief ordered law enforcement to stay out.

Besides, when you have an active shooter you don't need keys. You shoot the door open.

Also, obviously you can engage the shooter from outside through the windows... again, no key required.

I wish the chief would say his lies under oath so he could get some add on charges.

Isn't that what shotgun breaching rounds are for?