HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

[ScottDLS]

Per the Legislature tracking website, it's signed. Tomorrow there may be a signing ceremony at the Alamo, but it will be like the the giant check that lottery hands out when you win the Powerball....it's not the one you take to the bank and deposit.

[03Lightningrocks]

Per the Legislature tracking website, it's signed. Tomorrow there may be a signing ceremony at the Alamo, but it will be like the the giant check that lottery hands out when you win the Powerball....it's not the one you take to the bank and deposit.

[Grayling813]

TSRA email:

Wonderful news from Governor Abbott this afternoon! Officially, HB 1927 Permitless Carry was signed today, but will be also part of a larger bill signing tomorrow.

TSRA is headed down to the signing at the Alamo for the bill signings of :

HB 2622-2A Sanctuary State (Representative Holland),

HB 1927-Permitless Carry (Representative Schaeffer),

HB 1500- 2A Protections during Disasters/States of Emergencies (Representative Hefner),

HB 957-Texas Suppressors (Representative Oliverson),

SB 18-2A Protections during Disasters/States of Emergencies (Senator Creighton)

SB 19- 2A Anti-Discrimination - the state can no longer do business with private businesses who discriminate against the gun industry (Senator Schwertner)

SB 20- The Hotel bill-which requires hotels to allow you to carry concealed directly to your room or coming from your room to you car (Senator Campbell).

SB 550- The LTC holster bill that allows those who wish to carry openly, to choose the holster that suits them best as opposed to current law which requires either a shoulder holster or a belt holster. (Senator Springer)

We are thoroughly delighted that our Governor is signing all of these bills tomorrow.

Thank you again to all of you who worked so hard to get these bills passed. Congratulations to you ALL!

As always, if you have questions or comments, do hit "reply" to this email and it will come straight to my inbox! I am always here for you!

Thank you all again!!!!!!
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Andi Turner
Legislative Director
TSRA

[Syntyr]

Yep Outstanding!

And there is much gnashing of teeth already!

Also, Governor signed HB 957 the Suppressor Freedom act. Now we just have to wait for the court case to settle it!

[PriestTheRunner]

Also, Governor signed HB 957 the Suppressor Freedom act. Now we just have to wait for the court case to settle it!

I really do like that legal method of challenging Wickard V Filburn. It keeps a citizen from bearing the legal brunt and cost of such a challenge. Doing it that way, the state of Texas can throw their legal weight at it.

Much better IMO than the Kentucky version, and the resulting legal disaster for those guys that were 'caught' illegally having suppressors.

[Ruark]

Hopefully we're moving another inch closer to buying a suppressor at Academy for 39.95.

[The Annoyed Man]

I have a question about the implementation of permit-less carry……. A friend of mine from California asked me a couple of days ago if he would be able to lawfully carry in Texas if he came out to visit me once constitutional carry has gone into effect. I told him that I wasn’t absolutely certain, but that I didn’t see why not.

Then a customer asked me today if constitutional carry in Texas was going to be available to anyone visiting the state, or only to Texas residents. Again, I said I don’t see why it would not be available to all, but I thought I should verify that answer here before I answer again somewhere else.

Thoughts?

[Flightmare]

I have a question about the implementation of permit-less carry……. A friend of mine from California asked me a couple of days ago if he would be able to lawfully carry in Texas if he came out to visit me once constitutional carry has gone into effect. I told him that I wasn’t absolutely certain, but that I didn’t see why not.

Then a customer asked me today if constitutional carry in Texas was going to be available to anyone visiting the state, or only to Texas residents. Again, I said I don’t see why it would not be available to all, but I thought I should verify that answer here before I answer again somewhere else.

Thoughts?

I see nothing in the bill itself that says that a person has to be a resident of Texas.
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/b ... 01927F.htm

[The Annoyed Man]

I have a question about the implementation of permit-less carry……. A friend of mine from California asked me a couple of days ago if he would be able to lawfully carry in Texas if he came out to visit me once constitutional carry has gone into effect. I told him that I wasn’t absolutely certain, but that I didn’t see why not.

Then a customer asked me today if constitutional carry in Texas was going to be available to anyone visiting the state, or only to Texas residents. Again, I said I don’t see why it would not be available to all, but I thought I should verify that answer here before I answer again somewhere else.

Thoughts?

I see nothing in the bill itself that says that a person has to be a resident of Texas.
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/b ... 01927F.htm

Thanks, that’s what I thought, but I just wanted to be certain before possible giving out wrong information.

[oljames3]

I have a question about the implementation of permit-less carry……. A friend of mine from California asked me a couple of days ago if he would be able to lawfully carry in Texas if he came out to visit me once constitutional carry has gone into effect. I told him that I wasn’t absolutely certain, but that I didn’t see why not.

Then a customer asked me today if constitutional carry in Texas was going to be available to anyone visiting the state, or only to Texas residents. Again, I said I don’t see why it would not be available to all, but I thought I should verify that answer here before I answer again somewhere else.

Thoughts?

I see nothing in the bill itself that says that a person has to be a resident of Texas.
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/b ... 01927F.htm

Thanks, that’s what I thought, but I just wanted to be certain before possible giving out wrong information.

Texas lawyers explain.

https://go.mylawshield.com/e/219422/tx- ... 4AIsgXymgs

See page 22 of the T-L-S "Texas Constitutional Carry Guide."

https://go.mylawshield.com/e/219422/tx- ... 4AIsgXymgs

Q: Can a non-Texas resident carry under the authority of Texas Constitutional Carry?
A: Yes, there is no requirement under The Firearm Carry Act of 2021 that a person has to be a Texas resident. So long as the person is otherwise qualified (e.g. non-prohibited person, who is a resident of another state), they may carry.

[NotRPB]

My understanding for 46.03 places is that there is no change for LTC holders.

This is correct.

Prior to HB 1927 becoming law 46.03 locations were off limits by statute to license holders. No 30.06/7 signs or oral notice were required for them to be off limits.

They have to post a 30.06/07 sign, or give verbal notice for those. A 46.03 sign means nothing for LTC, there would have to be the 30.06/07 notice given.

That is not correct. I believe you are thinking of certain locations in 46.035 that were specially off limits to license holders but were required to post 30.06/7 signs for 46.035 to have effect (such as hospitals, colleges and governmental meetings covered by the open meetings act).

With HB 1927, the locations that were specifically off limits to license holders are now rolled into 46.03, and they brought with them the same 30.06/7 notification requirements. These locations are also off limits for unlicensed carry and if those locations properly post 46.03 signs you have no defense to prosecution if you are caught carrying in those locations.

Here's the oddity I run into
As a Volunteer Emergency Services Personnel, 30.06 isn't a normal worry at businesses etc, unless it's an otherwise prohibited place.
Here's the thing... Burnet Tax Appraisal District is ok to carry, but next door, the Appraisal review board/hearing location next door is 30.06 posted on a 3x5 index card taped near a door handle, and it's an open meeting supposedly posted at the Courthouse....
At an Open meetings act meeting under 46.03, where prohibited if they post a valid 30.06 sign, what if they post an invalid 30.06 sign on a 3x5 index card
I'm old, I can't read font that small to see if there's a 46.03 sign, they have like 10 index cards with tiny printing on them taped to the door.

Does this bill really change anything in regards to those who have their LTC? Or will that remain business as usual?

Based on my analysis, we can no longer be prevented from carrying in government meetings covered by the open meetings act and we get the "belt and shoulder" restriction removed from our holster choices.

This is great news. I’ve been wanting forever to ankle-carry a j-frame BUG while wearing cargo shorts.

Make sure you do it while at a city council meeting for full effect.

i'm missing how "we can no longer be prevented from carrying in government meetings covered by the open meetings act "
looks to me like if 1) they post at Courthouse and 2) post a VALID 30.06 sign, we are still prevented from carrying there... but, I could be wrong, often am mistaken, and my forgetter works better than my rememberer at my age. Also, I'm not a lawyer, I stayed at holiday in that had a merry-go-round once near the pool though.
https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._ ... tion_46.03

(13)
in an amusement park; or
(14)
in the room or rooms where a meeting of a governmental entity is held, if the meeting is an open meeting subject to Chapter 551 (Open Meetings), Government Code, and if the entity provided notice as required by that chapter.

but a 3x5 index card taped to the glass door with 10 other index cards ?

[NotRPB]

JUST AS A FOLLOWUP, All they have is those invalid signs on 3x5 cards taped to the door AT THE BURNET COUNTY APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD PLACE., no metal detectors, no police etc ... As far as the tiny signs posted at & below the glass door handle, I would have had to squat to read them, TEENY TINY FONT, I DO NOT EVEN KNOW IF THE CORRECT LANGUAGE WAS THERE, at my age I do not squat.
I am retired, and I barely do squat, I'm not a lawyer,
When it comes to dancing, I can get down with the best of them, I just can't get up again.

[C-dub]

It sounds like there might be some internal struggle going on there. Maybe someone told them they needed those big honkin signs and someone else didn't and thought about putting up a bunch of little ones to approximate the big sign size would be enough. Either that or some other JackWagon is having some fun.