Ah. Thanks.der Teufel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:53 pmI think there's "an old saying" that a DA can present whatever evidence to a grand jury they feel appropriate, omitting what doesn't fit their narrative, such that they could indict a ham sandwich of a crime if they desired to do so.The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:48 pm Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "ham sandwich indictment"?
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The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:48 pmPardon my ignorance, but what is a "ham sandwich indictment"?dlh wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:56 amIn my opinion Kim Gardner has indicted the proverbial "ham sandwich." She should have to try the case herself. However, would not surprisertschl wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:54 pm The couple has been indicted.
A grand jury in St. Louis on Tuesday indicted Mark and Patricia McCloskey on counts of exhibiting a weapon and tampering with evidence four months after footage circulated showing the couple pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside their home.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... protesters
me at all if she passes it off to one of her assistants. There was a District Attorney in Texas who kept "ham sandwiches" to a minimum. He told his assistants if you indict a ham sandwich then YOU get to try the ham sandwich--really cut down on the ham sandwich indictments in his district.
The origin of the phrase is Judge Solomon Wachtler, who was later charged and convicted of crimes himself.
Solomon "Sol" Wachtler (born April 29, 1930) is an American lawyer and Republican politician from New York.[1] He was Chief Judge of the New York Court of Appeals from 1985 to 1992.[2] Wachtler's most famous quote, made shortly after his appointment as Chief Judge, was that district attorneys could get grand juries to "indict a ham sandwich."[3]
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This is a turn that I didn't expect.
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“Ms. Gardner has every right to rebut criticism, but it appears unnecessary to stigmatize defendant – or even mention him – in campaign solicitations, especially when she purports to be responding to others,” he wrote. “In fact, the case law and Rules of Professional Conduct prohibit it.”
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Wow, don’t see that ever day!chasfm11 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:48 pm This is a turn that I didn't expect.
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/12/1 ... nJGK0yfhZE
Dang an honest judge.
I can’t believe any DA would do that.
But leave it to a Dem to think of that.
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https://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-couple- ... 25894.html
Judge sends case back to grand jury.
Don’t know if I have seen this before.
Judge sends case back to grand jury.
Don’t know if I have seen this before.
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The judge hasn't done anything yet. The McCloskeys have asked the judge to return the case to the grand jury.philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 am https://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-couple- ... 25894.html
Judge sends case back to grand jury.
Don’t know if I have seen this before.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 268d9.html
It wasn’t clear ahead of Friday's hearing when Circuit Judge David Mason would issue a decision.
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'Squad' Dem Cori Bush praises St. Louis' 'historic' vote to 'defund' police
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad- ... und-police
What’s St. Louis’s crime rate?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad- ... und-police
What’s St. Louis’s crime rate?
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Crime rate there is real bad.philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:37 pm 'Squad' Dem Cori Bush praises St. Louis' 'historic' vote to 'defund' police
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad- ... und-police
What’s St. Louis’s crime rate?
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philip964 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:44 pm https://www.kmov.com/news/kim-gardner-f ... 6a9bb.html
DA faces ethics probe.
Awe.
Kim Gardner faces professional misconduct probe, could lose law license
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https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... against-exPaladin wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:51 amphilip964 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:44 pm https://www.kmov.com/news/kim-gardner-f ... 6a9bb.html
DA faces ethics probe.
Awe.Kim Gardner faces professional misconduct probe, could lose law license
This sounds pretty serious. Not against our St. Louis couple, due to prosecution of former Governor. Lying to judges, stuff like that.
Awe.
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philip964 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:05 pmhttps://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... against-exPaladin wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:51 amphilip964 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:44 pm https://www.kmov.com/news/kim-gardner-f ... 6a9bb.html
DA faces ethics probe.
Awe.Kim Gardner faces professional misconduct probe, could lose law license
This sounds pretty serious. Not against our St. Louis couple, due to prosecution of former Governor. Lying to judges, stuff like that.
Awe.
Kim and George are busy people! Sounds like Kim could go to jail for this one:St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner, one of the early local prosecutors bankrolled by liberal megadonor George Soros since 2016, engaged in 62 acts of misconduct that resulted in 79 false representations during Greitens' now-dismissed criminal prosecution
Gardner also remains under criminal investigation by a special prosecutor...
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Or as they call it in St. Louis...business as usual.philip964 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:44 pm https://www.kmov.com/news/kim-gardner-f ... 6a9bb.html
DA faces ethics probe.
Awe.