post-election reflection

[Ruark]

Who knows how this thing will turn out. If you look at "Google News," it's 100% anti-trump news articles. I remember many years ago when Google was cool, a neat way to "look up stuff on the internet." Look at it now.

I've been contemplating buying a part for my AR from an online store. I went ahead and ordered it today, because it might be the last chance I have, and these third-party online gun parts companies (selling triggers, springs, BCGs, muzzle brakes, etc.) will quickly go bankrupt if Biden succeeds in his anti-gun initiatives. I also picked up 400 more rounds of 5.56 and found a 50-round box of 124 gr. 9MM+P Gold Dot. I'm downright scared to go practice with it and use it up.

[K.Mooneyham]

So, where is this army of "Beto stormtroopers" going to come from? Do you know how many armed Federal agents there are in the entire nation? About 100 thousand, that's all. That's spread out across every agency that arms some or all of their personnel, inc. the FBI, BATFE, DEA, IRS, Treasury, etc, etc. They have a vast number of tasks to do as it is. However, even if they were ALL told to stop what they are doing and do nothing but confiscate firearms, they still wouldn't have enough folks. Double their numbers. Still not enough. Can they cause huge amounts of pain and anguish? Sure they can. However, nothing would tick off more folks in this nation than some sort of crazy mass confiscation scheme. Folks that currently think of themselves as "moderates" and sit on the fence might take a dim view of house-to-house searches en mass. Besides, I truly think you are giving government agencies WAY more credit than they deserve.

That's not how it'll play out. Remember all the hype the past few years about how the White Supremacists are the biggest threat to America? How many incidents have you seen on the news about WS? If there had been, it would be all over the news non stop. I can count on one hand, how many I've heard of. And most of those were what I'd consider insane, not truly WS. My belief is that it's being ingrained into peoples psyche so that when anyone tries to stand off with them they're labeled WS. Instant public disdain. After a few reported incidents, you'll see them having your neighbors turn you in because they know you had guns. So you must be a WS. They won't just use ATF, they'll have NG along beside them. You'll see a few Waco's and Ruby Ridges. And seeing as we're not the ones antagonizing them, we won't be attacking back.

Well, I guess that'll work just great in the cities. However, not all of us live in a city, and some of us live in areas where it's pretty much nothing but "flyover country deplorables".

[Chemist45]

K.Mooneyham wrote

Well, I guess that'll work just great in the cities. However, not all of us live in a city, and some of us live in areas where it's pretty much nothing but "flyover country deplorables".

They will get to you eventually. As Clarionite wrote, (Paraphrasing) Gun owners will be "Othered" we will be lumped in with WS and become the enemy of the people. The NG will back up Beto's stormtroopers who will come from the ranks of Antifa and BLM (Recruited out of necessity after all the good cops quit.)
It can't happen, right? the NG would never turn on lawful gun owners. Right?
Remember Hurricane Katrina?
Remember the NG going house to house seizing firearms?
Remember when they body slammed an old woman and ripped the gun from her hand all the while telling her they were there to help?
Joe and Beto may have to get tricky and send the MI NG to Texas and vise versa so it won't be your neighbor taking your gun.
Worry not. Uncle Joe has a plan for you and best of all - its for your own good.

[03Lightningrocks]

K.Mooneyham wrote

Well, I guess that'll work just great in the cities. However, not all of us live in a city, and some of us live in areas where it's pretty much nothing but "flyover country deplorables".

They will get to you eventually. As Clarionite wrote, (Paraphrasing) Gun owners will be "Othered" we will be lumped in with WS and become the enemy of the people. The NG will back up Beto's stormtroopers who will come from the ranks of Antifa and BLM (Recruited out of necessity after all the good cops quit.)
It can't happen, right? the NG would never turn on lawful gun owners. Right?
Remember Hurricane Katrina?
Remember the NG going house to house seizing firearms?
Remember when they body slammed an old woman and ripped the gun from her hand all the while telling her they were there to help?
Joe and Beto may have to get tricky and send the MI NG to Texas and vise versa so it won't be your neighbor taking your gun.
Worry not. Uncle Joe has a plan for you and best of all - its for your own good.

The real question is, "How many gun owners will actually resist?". I bet not even half. They will fold like the Sunday newspaper. Many will try to hide their guns, hoping they don't get caught with them. But I bet even more will simply give in. The only way to stop gun confiscation is armed resistance which most folks don't have the stomach for. Just my humble opinion based on how easy it was for them to implement the first temporary assault weapons ban.

[srothstein]

The real question is, "How many gun owners will actually resist?". I bet not even half. They will fold like the Sunday newspaper. Many will try to hide their guns, hoping they don't get caught with them. But I bet even more will simply give in. The only way to stop gun confiscation is armed resistance which most folks don't have the stomach for. Just my humble opinion based on how easy it was for them to implement the first temporary assault weapons ban.

I agree that most will not resist. After all, most gun owners in the US don't really care for the hobby. They got a gun for protection because they were scared or they inherited it and had no idea what to do with it or similar reasons. I take heart from the knowledge that it only takes between 10 and 25% of the people to fight a rebellion. I think we will get that many when it becomes necessary. My problem is how many will agree with me when I decide it is necessary. We each have our own lines that will decide us and mine may not agree with many people's.

[teraph]

I tend to do a lot of lurking rather than posting in a lot of places, and one of my favorite authors has been doing a lot of delving into all the stuff around the election. And he's been posting a bunch of it on Facebook and his blog, which has obviously angered certain people. While the language in the links below don't follow the rules here (which includes the titles to the first two), I figured most of y'all would find them at least entertaining, if not eye opening. Enjoy!

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11 ... ry-update/

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11 ... ry-update/

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11 ... ith-fraud/


PS: I hope the links work, I tried to shorten them enough so that they complied with the forum rules

[K.Mooneyham]

Well, with attitudes like some folks seem to have, maybe the bad guys will have an easy time of it after all. Don't y'all have kids, or grandkids, that you want to see live in a free country? Or is it, "well, I'm old and had a good life, who cares what happens later"? Yeah, some might want me to get kicked off the forum for saying so, and I make ZERO claims to being some kind of tough guy, I just fix airplanes for a living, but I'm not ready to just give up, lay down, and die. I'll refrain from saying what I really think about Robert Patrick O'Rourke and his pals, I know Mr. Cotton doesn't like that sort of language. Good day to you, sirs.

[jason812]

I take heart from the knowledge that it only takes between 10 and 25% of the people to fight a rebellion. I think we will get that many when it becomes necessary. My problem is how many will agree with me when I decide it is necessary. We each have our own lines that will decide us and mine may not agree with many people's.

Too early and you're labeled as a nut job, too late and well...

Well, with attitudes like some folks seem to have, maybe the bad guys will have an easy time of it after all. Don't y'all have kids, or grandkids, that you want to see live in a free country? Or is it, "well, I'm old and had a good life, who cares what happens later"? Yeah, some might want me to get kicked off the forum for saying so, and I make ZERO claims to being some kind of tough guy, I just fix airplanes for a living, but I'm not ready to just give up, lay down, and die. I'll refrain from saying what I really think about Robert Patrick O'Rourke and his pals, I know Mr. Cotton doesn't like that sort of language. Good day to you, sirs.

Unfortunately, I know a few with this frame of mind. Fortunately, I'm in my early 40's and not terribly (just slightly) out of shape or broken down.

I keep holding out hope that this will turn out the correct way but I would not make a bet on it.

[srothstein]

I keep holding out hope that this will turn out the correct way but I would not make a bet on it.

Funny thing you should mention that. I just read an article that mentioned one of the interesting groups not listening to the media - bookmakers. So far, the gamblers are declining to pay off on any bets on the presidential election claiming it is not finished yet.

[K.Mooneyham]

Commandancy of the The Alamo
Bejar, Feby. 24th. 1836

To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World—
Fellow Citizens & compatriots—

I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna — I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man — The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken — I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls — I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch — The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country —

Victory or Death.
William Barrett Travis.
Lt. Col. comdt.

P. S. The Lord is on our side — When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn — We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels and got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves.
Travis

[Rafe]

[striker55]

Looks like some people get it, with the possibility of Biden being the next president Hollywood is pulling out, I've seen several stars are selling their properties, Ryan Seacrest the latest. Some companies relocating, latest Hewlett Packard, before that Tesla. I'm afraid Texas the free state is in for a change, not right away but they are coming.

[Beiruty]

The next election in 4 yrs Texas would be a toss up state.
2028 Texas could turn blue.
The writings are on the wall.
GOP has to expand its base or we will get locked out from winning

[parabelum]

The next election in 4 yrs Texas would be a toss up state.
2028 Texas could turn blue.
The writings are on the wall.
GOP has to expand its base or we will get locked out from winning

(I wish there was a “agree” emoji with a frown..).

The libs are leaving their run down States in droves and likely the two States they will flood are Texas and Florida. If TX and Florida turn blue kiss your Nation goodbye.

May need to move to Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota or more likely for me...Tennessee.

[2farnorth]

This thread saddens me. Some will give up our country without a fight.