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labrat1001001 wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:19 pm This Jim Salter Yahoo article is biased from title start. Is there any journalistic integrity remaining on the left?
If they had any integrity to begin with, they would not be in journalism.

But I kind of like this article, not anything it says but what it is reporting. Doesn't charging nine people with trespassing on their lawn kind of make the case that the McCloskeys were justified in their defense of their property? Anyone else think the police filed these charges without the prosecutor asking them to?
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Screeching harridan records while she harasses McCloskey's as they pick up holiday cards from a local shop.

McCloskey responds by giving her a holiday card. Troll level "EXCELLENT".

Christmas card has picture of McCloskey's defending their home. Troll level "TRUMPIAN".

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/m ... ds-n958095

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The screeching one who is harrassing the McCloskeys for defending their home against trespassers does not apparently realize the incongruity when she starts yelling at McCloskey to "Don't come near me!" when he is holding out a Christmas card.

I wasn't so sure about this guy and his wife in the beginning, but I really like the cut of their jib now. :lol:
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Funny that the person following them around town [shouting the f word at them] gets upset when he steps near her with a card. :lol:

And what a great message- "abolish the suburbs" what the heck is that about??? :headscratch
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flechero wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:24 pm

And what a great message- "abolish the suburbs" what the heck is that about??? :headscratch
The left does not like suburbs with their individual homes, privacy, automobiles, independence from others, lack of mass transit, etc. And they too often vote Republican. Too hard to control people living there.

Read about it here: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/b ... e-suburbs/
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ELB wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:27 pm
flechero wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:24 pm

And what a great message- "abolish the suburbs" what the heck is that about??? :headscratch
The left does not like suburbs with their individual homes, privacy, automobiles, independence from others, lack of mass transit, etc. And they too often vote Republican. Too hard to control people living there.

Read about it here: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/b ... e-suburbs/
But without the burbs, the mass transit, section 8 housing, and small liquor stores, as well as all the other awesome benefits of those centrally located areas would be stressed with too many people. Then we'd have to yell "abolish the urban areas!"
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ELB wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:27 pm
flechero wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:24 pm

And what a great message- "abolish the suburbs" what the heck is that about??? :headscratch
The left does not like suburbs with their individual homes, privacy, automobiles, independence from others, lack of mass transit, etc. And they too often vote Republican. Too hard to control people living there.

Read about it here: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/b ... e-suburbs/
That area of St. Louis is IN THE CITY, not the suburbs. Ignore the screeching loon....she has systemic ignorance.
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Grayling813 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:33 pm ...

That area of St. Louis is IN THE CITY, not the suburbs. Ignore the screeching loon....she has systemic ignorance.
Well...no. She knows what she's talking about. Suburbs have generally considered outlying areas, but the key feature of suburbs are that they are residential areas largely consisting of single family homes. They are away from the urban parts of the city because land is...or was... cheaper farther out, but also they are farther away from the urban ills of overcrowding, no yards, city noise and all the rest of the "urban scene."

Lefties hate this. You are selfish for wanting this, and you and your family are evil for not sacrificing you wants, needs, security for the communal pleasure of being stacked on top of each other, with only enough (maybe) room to have a bed and maybe a kitchen. And therefore you don't need any cars, few if any pets, you don't need to travel except by mass transit, etc, and the fact that there's a wino peeing in the doorway to your apartment building is just a minor fly in the ointment etc.

Portland Place is in the city of St Louis, but it not "urban." It is a very rich single family home residential area with multi-room houses, large lots, lots of trees, expensive cars, probably no businesses (and if there are any, I'll bet they are restaurants) -- everything a good commie hates (for other people to have).

The BLM/Antifa/Commies have announced that they are taking protests to the suburbs, and you now read daily of their mobs roaming through single family residential areas threatening the residents. The mob that trespassed McCloskeys were on their way to the mayor's house, and they trespassed purposefully because Portland Place is a rich version of the suburbs they love to hate.

Governor Newsom just signed an Exec Order for California banning the sale of gas-powered vehicles by ... 2035 I think. Anyway, in the middle of the article is this gem:
Others applauded the governor's move, but they did not think the ban was a panacea.

"We still need to reduce vehicle miles traveled, which stems from our abject failure to build sufficiently dense housing in our urban core near jobs and transit and leads to sprawl that contributes to climate change impacts regardless of fuel consumption," the Bay Area Council tweeted.
But you can bet the upper apparatchiks will need special single family dachas to compensate for all that stress of governing for the good of the masses, tho.

https://www.foxla.com/news/california-g ... and-trucks

Commies love herding people into groups with lots of (forced) commonality, it makes them easier to control. Commies hate small business, small towns, suburbs, individual housing, everything that provides individual freedom. They claim to hate corporations, but they much prefer them to small businesss because they are both more powerful and easier to control, so they will tolerate a fascist phase where corporations are allowed to exist as long as they toe the party line (like in Nazi Germany), but ultimately they will become part of the State/Party --- unless everything falls apart first.
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When I visited an East German airbase after the Wall fell, the married guys, officers, were living in these huge apartment blocks, about 20 stories tall, no elevator, absolutely nothing in the stairwells but concrete. No handrails that I recall, but also no paint, no features, no decor, just plain concrete. The apartments were tiny, like dorm rooms with a kitchen running along on side and a tiny bedroom. I should say, like dorm rooms when I went to college 40 years ago. Not like the palaces universities have now.

When the people living in those apartments realized that the government was gone, communism was no more, one of the first things they did was run out to a local lake and each husband built in individual cottage for his family around the lake. They had money to buy materials because prior to the fall of the regime there was very little to buy, so they saved their meager wages.

Of course these were military guys, and the government could tell them where and how to live, but... it was illustrative of what the government would do when it had absolute power to decide how you should live.
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The couple has been indicted. :mad5

A grand jury in St. Louis on Tuesday indicted Mark and Patricia McCloskey on counts of exhibiting a weapon and tampering with evidence four months after footage circulated showing the couple pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside their home.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... protesters
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https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 32365ad119

More from a local news source. Thanks for your post. I cannot believe this is happening in America. It is one more nail in Biden's defeat in November.
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philip964 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:24 pm https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 32365ad119

More from a local news source. Thanks for your post. I cannot believe this is happening in America. It is one more nail in Biden's defeat in November.
City attorneys for St. Louis refused to charge nine protesters who were ticketed for trespassing after members of the Portland Place trustees said they did not want to press charges against them.
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rtschl wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:54 pm The couple has been indicted. :mad5

A grand jury in St. Louis on Tuesday indicted Mark and Patricia McCloskey on counts of exhibiting a weapon and tampering with evidence four months after footage circulated showing the couple pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside their home.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... protesters
In my opinion Kim Gardner has indicted the proverbial "ham sandwich." She should have to try the case herself. However, would not surprise
me at all if she passes it off to one of her assistants. There was a District Attorney in Texas who kept "ham sandwiches" to a minimum. He told his assistants if you indict a ham sandwich then YOU get to try the ham sandwich--really cut down on the ham sandwich indictments in his district.
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dlh wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:56 am
rtschl wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:54 pm The couple has been indicted. :mad5

A grand jury in St. Louis on Tuesday indicted Mark and Patricia McCloskey on counts of exhibiting a weapon and tampering with evidence four months after footage circulated showing the couple pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside their home.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... protesters
In my opinion Kim Gardner has indicted the proverbial "ham sandwich." She should have to try the case herself. However, would not surprise
me at all if she passes it off to one of her assistants. There was a District Attorney in Texas who kept "ham sandwiches" to a minimum. He told his assistants if you indict a ham sandwich then YOU get to try the ham sandwich--really cut down on the ham sandwich indictments in his district.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "ham sandwich indictment"?
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The Annoyed Man wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:48 pm Pardon my ignorance, but what is a "ham sandwich indictment"?
I think there's "an old saying" that a DA can present whatever evidence to a grand jury they feel appropriate, omitting what doesn't fit their narrative, such that they could indict a ham sandwich of a crime if they desired to do so.
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