President Trump tested Positive for Covid!

[Vol Texan]

[03Lightningrocks]

MSM meltdown over Trump surviving!

Tucker: Mainstream media enraged by Trump's positive COVID message

[Flightmare]

I think this proves that even COVID-19 picks Trump over Biden.

[K.Mooneyham]

It is cool they have treatments like that if they work. I just have to wonder if any of us would get the opportunity to try that if needed. I am not sure the insurance would even cover it due to it being "experimental". I sure wish I were a billionaire.

You could have access through the Expanded Access Protocol (EAP), and you can download the information if you google, "Regeneron EAP." Most insurance plans will cover a significant portion, though not all of the cost.

I'm a research nurse, and have been working these protocols since March.

Masking does work prophylactically, and is far cheaper than the treatment.

As I have read many sources of information regarding this virus, to include the CDC guidance, I will again state that only N95 level or better will protect the WEARER from the virus. I am sure you know that. The cloth masks or surgical masks are only to keep a potentially infected, but asymptomatic, wearer from spreading the virus to others via droplets. All the folks who went into the debate, including President Trump and Joe Biden, were tested for the virus prior to the debate. The focus is now on others who were part of the pre-debate planning and setup.

Masks work prophylactically- everyone masks, there is very minimal statistical chance of transmission. The WH testing model is/was flawed in that infected individuals are shedding virus before it will be detected.

Yes, an N95, properly worn, is the best insurance for the wearer, however, there are no "safe" people or places, it is all about risk-mitigation, ergo, you wear your mask, your friends, non-co-habiting family & co-workers wear theirs, and things for the general populace improve dramatically.

Covid is no the end of the world, neither is it, "just another flu." Ignorance and arrogance on both right and left is causing harm to a lot of people, and will continue to do so, as long as responses are emotion driven.

Our group provides micro data to some aforementioned sources, and we receive macro data back, in some particulars, before its "out there," which gives a pretty middle-of-the-road perspective that is unpopular because it generally doesn't fit either headline click-bait copy. FWIW.

So, what do you think about the fact that the primary method for testing is PCR? From what I can tell, PCR (polymerase chain reaction, for those that don't know) was devised to test for DNA from small samples, creating large amounts of the original sample. It does the same with RNA. So, even a tiny sample of coronavirus RNA is generally amplified through many cycles to become a "large" amount of coronavirus RNA, even if the original sample was too small to actually infect anyone. I have read about this in a couple of different places now, including strangely enough, NYTimes. Those articles stated that this is causing a lot of positives to come back even from people who aren't able to infect others, while also "hiding" those that are capable of infecting others among the "noise" of thousands of positives. If we had more accurate numbers, then mitigation strategies might become more useful than hitting the problem with the proverbial sledgehammer.

[parabelum]

“... socially interact and not cause unintended harm...”, now that’s a rather slippery statement my friend. And of course we’ve had widespread epidemics in the last “”70-80” years. Swine flu 2009, Hong Kong flu (1968...but hey, still had Woodstock )...

I don’t care if you wear a mask. I choose to wear it but I’d rather keep it as a choice, not a mandate. Makes sense?

Back to topic.

[03Lightningrocks]

“... socially interact and not cause unintended harm...”, now that’s a rather slippery statement my friend. And of course we’ve had widespread epidemics in the last “”70-80” years. Swine flu 2009, Hong Kong flu (1968...but hey, still had Woodstock )...

I don’t care if you wear a mask. I choose to wear it but I’d rather keep it as a choice, not a mandate. Makes sense?

Back to topic.

I was thinking the same thing. Swine flu was definitely a pandemic but it was a Democrat in office and Republicans don't stoop to gutter measures to damage Democrats so maybe we are not going to call that one a pandemic. Democrat run Cities and states are still using this virus to trample on peoples rights. I have to LOL when anyone tries to tell us not to politicize this virus. I just want to say, To Late, Democrats have already done it.

The only panic I remember from swine flu was pork prices dropping due to people being afraid to buy pork products. I loved it. I loaded up on ribs and chops at basement prices.

I wear a mask when out in public. Mostly because it is required but I realize the irony of using a chain link fence to stop flies from coming in the house.

[03Lightningrocks]

So what happens with those virus particles that collect and soak up into that mask that is then constantly played with and touched by every person I ever see in public wearing them? They leave the store, reach up and touch them as they take them off and stick them in a pocket or purse. Then they use the same hands to touch items in the store, grab the door handle or type in numbers on that credit card acceptance machine. Arrive at next location, grab mask from now infected pocket or purse and put it back on to soak up some more virus particles. Beyond all of the evidence that a mask is a petri dish of germs. One must ask why social distancing is so important if everyone wearing a mask is protecting someone else from getting the virus. The science said in March they don't work. Now they do? Call me skeptical when the same "scientists" are told by their sponsors to now claim they do work.

[parabelum]

I feel like someone would be just ok with a mandate to wear a mask or get immunized. Maybe with a legal ramifications to follow. I’d be guilty to deter from topic, but would someone also agree that lowering speed limit to 15mph would be adequate to eliminate/reduce car fatalities?

[flechero]

i guess the masks sold in dem cities have a different label:

[flechero]

Honestly, most of these arguments are based in lack of knowledge, and are obviously invalid, when placed in a correlation:

Abstinence is the only 100% effective birth control. Most people will not remain abstinent. Condoms are ~99% effective. Should they not be used because they are not 100%? How about because users may tear/damage/improperly store them?(Or interchange the pill, etc., here.) What about if a LAW is handed down?

Be serious, Rob. Your comparison would be valid if you were comparing condoms to N-95 masks, used PROPERLY. Comparing a condom's effectiveness to a paper mask is like suggesting one rubberbands a kleenex to his junk for use as birth control.

[RoyGBiv]

So what happens with those virus particles that collect and soak up into that mask that is then constantly played with and touched by every person I ever see in public wearing them? They leave the store, reach up and touch them as they take them off and stick them in a pocket or purse. Then they use the same hands to touch items in the store, grab the door handle or type in numbers on that credit card acceptance machine. Arrive at next location, grab mask from now infected pocket or purse and put it back on to soak up some more virus particles. Beyond all of the evidence that a mask is a petri dish of germs. One must ask why social distancing is so important if everyone wearing a mask is protecting someone else from getting the virus. The science said in March they don't work. Now they do? Call me skeptical when the same "scientists" are told by their sponsors to now claim they do work.

You can't make stupid people do smart things.

When wearing a mask:
1. Adjust so that is as close-fitting as possible.
2. Adjust/touch as little as possible.
3. When removing, do so by the ear loops.
4. Place face-down on a disposable surface (e.g., paper towel, paper plate, sheet of paper).
5. When re-applying, do the reverse of removal, and apply chin-to-nose.
6. Adjust for fit.
7. Dispose of "mask plate.
8. Wash/sanitize hands.

Thanks for saving me the typing Rob72. I mainly worry about the people living in my house handling masks properly. They still don't, after many reminders. I figure I'm likely to catch it from one of them. When I'm in enclosed public spaces I wear an N95 correctly and am careful to and don and doff and store it correctly. I have rarely seen anyone in public wearing an N95 correctly or handling any other type of mask properly.

The manager (who sent the cashier on an errand after my goods were loaded on the conveyor) checking out my groceries the other day said "I hope you're having a good day." I replied: "It would be better if you were wearing your mask on your face instead of around your neck."

My tolerance for stupidity is definitely low these days.