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Re: Dallas Ordering New Tough Restrictions

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carlson1 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:18 am
longtooth wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:27 am Does anyone here know personally someone that has died form the C-19 virus???

Know anyone personally that has it???

Wrong place. Mods can delete if desired. I am getting it where i should have put it. :banghead: :banghead:
I don’t know anyone my friend. I lost a two friends to the flu last year. It wouldn’t surprise me if Dallas didn’t command you get a flu shot that you have no ideal what you are getting.

I want to say this also because I do not want people to think I am not taking this virus serious. I look at this virus as do all virus’. If you are sick stay home. If you are older or if you have a weak immune system and you don’t feel comfortable going out then don’t go. I don’t think it is right for anyone to look down on you and the choices you have made for you, your family, etc... I just don’t think anyone has the right to ORDER me to stay home.
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RPBrown wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:58 am
longtooth wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:27 am Does anyone here know personally someone that has died form the C-19 virus???

Know anyone personally that has it???

Wrong place. Mods can delete if desired. I am getting it where i should have put it. :banghead: :banghead:
There was one of my masonic brothers that passed Monday due to C-19. However, he was 90 yo.
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Just saw National Guard activated on tv here, waiting on travel restrictions and others next. 1 fight here over diapers at store by a non local from Dallas coming here they had 4 paks she wanted all and shoved and kicked a lady wanting 1 of them also, she got arrested for assault and maced by other lady! Found to be illegal and no ID also.
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Maybe change the thread title to Texas from Dallas.

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Texas ... 32451.html

He's issuing an executive order directing schools to close, banning gatherings of 10 or more people and ordering restaurants to limit operations to drive-through, delivery and pick-up, and bars, indoor recreation facilities and other public venues to close.
How long until martial law?
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jason812 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:09 pm Maybe change the thread title to Texas from Dallas.

https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Texas ... 32451.html

He's issuing an executive order directing schools to close, banning gatherings of 10 or more people and ordering restaurants to limit operations to drive-through, delivery and pick-up, and bars, indoor recreation facilities and other public venues to close.
How long until martial law?
Less than a month.
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Liberals are using this to their full advantage. How come it is only democrat controlled states and cities issuing stay at home orders? Wonder how this will be enforced?
Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins (the chief executive officer of the county) issued the order to shelter-in-place on Sunday afternoon as the number of coronavirus cases in the county surpassed the 100 person mark, the Dallas Morning News reported.
https://www.breitbart.com/national-secu ... -outbreak/
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jason812 wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:06 pm Liberals are using this to their full advantage. How come it is only democrat controlled states and cities issuing stay at home orders? Wonder how this will be enforced?
Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins (the chief executive officer of the county) issued the order to shelter-in-place on Sunday afternoon as the number of coronavirus cases in the county surpassed the 100 person mark, the Dallas Morning News reported.
https://www.breitbart.com/national-secu ... -outbreak/
How can the County Judge “legally” close a church, but leave a grocery store, liquor store, etc... open?
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Can the government just close my favorite bar? (Or church)
https://reason.com/2020/03/16/can-the-g ... orite-bar/
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ELB wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:07 pm Can the government just close my favorite bar? (Or church)
https://reason.com/2020/03/16/can-the-g ... orite-bar/
A bar may be one thing,...
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Dallas County isn't the only one acting up.

See Tarrant County's order;
http://www.tarrantcounty.com/content/da ... ndment.pdf
3.This Declaration authorizes the County to commandeer or use any private property as provided by law.
I am no constitutional scholar, but I believe that would be a violation of the 5th amendment.

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Flightmare wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:41 pm Dallas County isn't the only one acting up.

See Tarrant County's order;
http://www.tarrantcounty.com/content/da ... ndment.pdf
3.This Declaration authorizes the County to commandeer or use any private property as provided by law.
I am no constitutional scholar, but I believe that would be a violation of the 5th amendment.

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...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
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None of which stops them from doing it or enforcing it. With courts slowed, it could be months before it resolved legally.
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cirus wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:53 pm
PriestTheRunner wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:13 pm Can somebody explain to me how this is legal?

Sure I think its a good idea, but it is still PERSONAL responsibility and decisions that should dictate, not top down implimentation.

Friggin police state.
If we depend on people being responsible and making smart decisions we're all dead. Just got to Wal-Mart or the grocery store and see if people can be trusted to do the right thing. They're buying up baby formula and leaving none for those that really need it. I'm all about freedom and very untrusting of the government but most people are idiots.
Those who stock up as part of their life, I have no problem with as they are usually the types who will share with their neighbors. Those who hoard in time of crisis are in effect stealing from their neighbors who also need essential products.
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One of the points made in the article I linked to above is the Constitution was designed to curb federal power, but leaves a considerably broader “police power” to the States. The intent was to keep keep power closer to the local level. The 14th Amendment incorporated some of the Bill of Rights against the States, but even then leaves a lot of power to the States and their Governors and other elected leaders. The 5th Amendment says the State must provide “just compensation” but it doesn’t say it can’t commandeer your stuff. American history has any examples of the government commandeering items during an emergency and worrying about the compensation later.

The Texas Constitution is designed to limit the power of the Governor, so the remaining power devolves to the Legislature and the local governments. If the Legislature hasn’t reserved a power to itself, then the local government can use it.

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carlson1 wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:03 pm
ELB wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:07 pm Can the government just close my favorite bar? (Or church)
https://reason.com/2020/03/16/can-the-g ... orite-bar/
A bar may be one thing,...
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...and a church may be the same thing.

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