The heat is behind the bullet- the interior of the JHP would take a lot more time to heat up than it would take for the round to hit someone. This is assuming they sealed it in the JHP and it actually reached the target.03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:29 amThis is what I thought about while reading the posts.Flightmare wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:25 am I'm curious, how well could the chemical survive from the temperature and pressure of being ejected from the barrel, not to mention the friction of the air as it approaches it's target?
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Enemy intel comes from many sources...narcissist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:53 amPlease do not feel disrespected if I decline to answer your question, just remember I am a honest-good person is all I can say.
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None of the article say that the fentanyl was inside the hollow point bullets.Police: 2 stopped for expired sticker in Fall River had hollow point bullets, fentanyl
https://whdh.com/news/police-2-stopped- ... -fentanyl/
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdfl/pr/pa ... ine-intent
https://patch.com/connecticut/meriden/m ... possession
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Just curious, why is up to me/us? I don't sell fentanyl or ammo. So I guess you mean don't get shot, but I have been trying to do that for over 60 years. Am I missing something? If so, let me know.narcissist wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:59 pm Now the "gangbangers" are filling hollow points with Pure Fentanyl to kill even after the shot by Overdosing the victims. No reports yet by news ect. Just that I've "Heard" through my grapevine!! --->Goes deep<--Of course even one shot in a leg would still kill, if its loaded with only 2-3mg of this deadly synthetic opioid ( which is nothing ). Even IF* you make it to the ER and say they do a drug test it will not show up due to being fully synthetic. So no Narcan is administered, reminds me of that old poison trick but they have easy access to this drug.
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I usually find it more important to not get shot than to shoot.twomillenium wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:38 amJust curious, why is up to me/us? I don't sell fentanyl or ammo. So I guess you mean don't get shot, but I have been trying to do that for over 60 years. Am I missing something? If so, let me know.narcissist wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:59 pm Now the "gangbangers" are filling hollow points with Pure Fentanyl to kill even after the shot by Overdosing the victims. No reports yet by news ect. Just that I've "Heard" through my grapevine!! --->Goes deep<--Of course even one shot in a leg would still kill, if its loaded with only 2-3mg of this deadly synthetic opioid ( which is nothing ). Even IF* you make it to the ER and say they do a drug test it will not show up due to being fully synthetic. So no Narcan is administered, reminds me of that old poison trick but they have easy access to this drug.
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definitely agree.oljames3 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:56 amI usually find it more important to not get shot than to shoot.twomillenium wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:38 amJust curious, why is up to me/us? I don't sell fentanyl or ammo. So I guess you mean don't get shot, but I have been trying to do that for over 60 years. Am I missing something? If so, let me know.narcissist wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:59 pm Now the "gangbangers" are filling hollow points with Pure Fentanyl to kill even after the shot by Overdosing the victims. No reports yet by news ect. Just that I've "Heard" through my grapevine!! --->Goes deep<--Of course even one shot in a leg would still kill, if its loaded with only 2-3mg of this deadly synthetic opioid ( which is nothing ). Even IF* you make it to the ER and say they do a drug test it will not show up due to being fully synthetic. So no Narcan is administered, reminds me of that old poison trick but they have easy access to this drug.
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Personally, I’ll file this into the same folder as kids getting drugs in their halloween candy. It’s a round file, lined with a black bag.
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Try watching Live PD or Live Rescue, and you’ll find out your not exactly right. It doesn’t matter that Fentanyl is a synthetic. So are some other opiates like Tramidol, for instance. But chemistry is chemistry, whether it’s natural or synthetic, and a Fentanyl overdose is absolutely reversible with Narcan. The problem with Fentanyl not that it’s untreatable; it's that it’s fairly fast acting, and it can take a LOT of Narcan to reverse it. In some cases, with larger doses of Fentanyl, first responders might not arrive in time to administer the antidote drug and the patient expires. But point of fact, that can happen with heroin and OxyContin and other opiates too....just to a lesser degree.narcissist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:08 amSo if someone first hand saw people loading this into bullets that wouldn't count?
Yeah I agree to never let anyone have power over you expecially with things someone 'knowingly' scares you.
I figured this would of been just disregarded, believe what you want but if for some reason someone does get shot and has little pain and starts to pass out (without major blood loss). Might try Narcan wouldn't hurt anyway, may delay pain relief when administered at the ER.
Then again what do I know?
https://www.thefix.com/narcan-resistant ... or-fiction
But that’s a scientifically dubious assertion. As Nelly Miles, spokesperson for Georgia’s Bureau of Investigation Crime Lab, explains: “The way the story was received was that naloxone does not work.” But actually the “newer analogues are more resistant to naloxone. They require multiple doses,” said Miles, who also happens to be a forensic chemist.
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In english thats "The world wants to be deceived, so", weird comment but think I understand.
I can do that also check out my language, SuQh+5m0E21lQquUV4ONeoz9hAqPgtN1fyT14gnGpfI=
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Illigitimi non carborundum.narcissist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:23 pmIn english thats "The world wants to be deceived, so", weird comment but think I understand.
I can do that also check out my language, SuQh+5m0E21lQquUV4ONeoz9hAqPgtN1fyT14gnGpfI=
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