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Re: CO: Sean Buchanan killed by drunk driver

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ELB wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:51 am
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:17 pm
ELB wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:39 pm Publicly begging on the internet pretty much makes it everyone's business. Including the moral value of donating.
Not hardly! You don't like it, so in your book that makes it "everyone's business." I haven't seen any complaining about FoFundMe accounts for the families of slain LEO's or soldiers. Nor have I seen any complaining about such accounts for veteran's losing their homes. Once again, selective outrage is ugly regardless where you fall on the political spectrum.

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Yes, hardly. Putting it out in public does make it everyone's business, whether "in your book" you like it or not. That's the POINT of a GoFundMe. (And let me say "I haven't seen..." is a... shall we say.. very weak argument.) For the record, I am not a fan of these types of GoFundMe-because-I-didn't-make-preparations campaigns. I served in the military too, and I make sure I have funds for my wife and my home. You take on responsibilities, you need to be responsible. You know you are going to die, that is a 100% certainty, you just don't know when.

I have contributed to exactly one personal GoFundMe, set up by a cop on the behalf of the woman who came to the aid of another cop who was sued for her trouble. Most homeowner's insurance will not include intentional acts, like shooting someone in self-defense, and the alleged self-defense "insurance" plans that exist are relatively untested. That fact that a self-defense/defense of others situation happened at all is, for the individual, relatively unlikely, unlike death. I contributed for the practical political/legal precedent -- i.e. legal challenges by miscreants should not go unanswered -- than for the benefit of the woman. You yourself have stated such suits are rare, and I want to keep them that way. I don't want points to go on the board because some gal didn't have the bucks for a lawyer.

That is family has to go out and do a GoFundMe should serve as a lesson to every other head of household. If I knew them personally, based on that relationship I might kick in some $$ anyway. Lord knows I have given $$$ to people I personally know (without the benefit of a GoFundMe campaign) because they were in a jam, in all likelihood because of their own poor decisions, because of those personal relationships and because they were at least trying to do the right thing in other spheres. I have also declined to contribute $$$ to them when they continued to do dumb stuff.

The fact that the dead guy in question was actively engaged in policies highly damaging to our country and yet didn't provide for his family makes this particular instance all the worse. If you want to give them some bucks, go right ahead. I will still point out that he did this to his family, and that is not admirable. They put it in the public domain and that makes it worthy of comment. That is true, not only "in my book."
Show me a post where you condemned the creation of and/or donations to a GoFundMe account, other than this one.

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Did Sean or his wife set up the gofundme account or did someone else that wanted to help the family do it? Will he profit or benefit from it? Why begrudge someone for helping a family out if one wants to help? Why punish the family for something the father may have not done or because of his position with regard to a political issue?

I did not see anyone begging for money. If people want to help by donating and they are able, they should do it. If not, don't. I do not understand the apparent animosity toward the wife and kids. Hope my family isn't punished for what I have or haven't done. Go Fund Me accounts are nothing more than old school Trust or memorial fund account set up at banks so people could make donations to help someone out.
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Charles L. Cotton wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:17 pm
ELB wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:39 pm Publicly begging on the internet pretty much makes it everyone's business. Including the moral value of donating.
Not hardly! You don't like it, so in your book that makes it "everyone's business." I haven't seen any complaining about FoFundMe accounts for the families of slain LEO's or soldiers. Nor have I seen any complaining about such accounts for veteran's losing their homes. Once again, selective outrage is ugly regardless where you fall on the political spectrum.

Chas.
I'm going to have to partially disagree with you. When you take to a public format to announce something, you are indeed making your business public. They are of course free to ask for money, and others to give money to them. That part I don't care about. However they have indeed made it everyone's business.

I do agree selective outrage is something would could all do without.
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I see a pattern here. If you don't like the dead guy, then you are offended by the creation of a GoFundMe account. Now show me a post where you condemned the creation of a GoFundMe account set up for the family of a "good guy."

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mojo84 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:59 pm Did Sean or his wife set up the gofundme account or did someone else that wanted to help the family do it? Will he profit or benefit from it? Why begrudge someone for helping a family out if one wants to help? Why punish the family for something the father may have not done or because of his position with regard to a political issue?

I did not see anyone begging for money. If people want to help by donating and they are able, they should do it. If not, don't. I do not understand the apparent animosity toward the wife and kids. Hope my family isn't punished for what I have or haven't done. Go Fund Me accounts are nothing more than old school Trust or memorial fund account set up at banks so people could make donations to help someone out.
This is exactly my point.

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Charles L. Cotton wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:41 pm
I see a pattern here. If you don't like the dead guy, then you are offended by the creation of a GoFundMe account. Now show me a post where you condemned the creation of a GoFundMe account set up for the family of a "good guy."

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lol. Move the goal posts. I don't like those type of gofundmes, I don't contribute, and whether I post about it or not is irrelevant to whether I like them or not or feel like posting. I don't post on every event that happens on the forum. I note that when I search on "GoFundMe" on the forum there are a number of them (very few "good guys" tho, I think more for robbers that got shot) and I haven't commented on every single one of them either. So?

I just had a week off, largely skipped the internet except for Instapundit and news, and I didn't bother to comment on any of this forum's posts, which is a "pattern" that signifies...that I had a nice week off. Maybe you should do the same. Your vehemence about this is disturbing. Maybe take a break yourself.
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Re: CO: Sean Buchanan killed by drunk driver

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In the sprit of living by the warning I posted here, I won't respond. It would be a good idea for you to read that thread, a very very good idea indeed.

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ELB wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:00 am
Charles L. Cotton wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:41 pm
I see a pattern here. If you don't like the dead guy, then you are offended by the creation of a GoFundMe account. Now show me a post where you condemned the creation of a GoFundMe account set up for the family of a "good guy."

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lol. Move the goal posts. I don't like those type of gofundmes, I don't contribute, and whether I post about it or not is irrelevant to whether I like them or not or feel like posting. I don't post on every event that happens on the forum. I note that when I search on "GoFundMe" on the forum there are a number of them (very few "good guys" tho, I think more for robbers that got shot) and I haven't commented on every single one of them either. So?

I just had a week off, largely skipped the internet except for Instapundit and news, and I didn't bother to comment on any of this forum's posts, which is a "pattern" that signifies...that I had a nice week off. Maybe you should do the same. Your vehemence about this is disturbing. Maybe take a break yourself.
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