Manager at Texas Whataburger denies service to detective because of his gun

[Abraham]

Soccerdad1995,

Thank you for your gracious and well stated post.

[gtolbert09]

Here ya go


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civilian

Definition of civilian
1 : a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
2 a : one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force
b : outsider 1

[OlBill]

I totally agree if they work outside the law it is very dangerous. They do not have the right to arrest me any time the choose, there are laws (as I mentioned previously) that dictate what, where, how, etc.

I also completely agree with your last comment. I wish they were not a necessity.

As to the what we can carry, I believe a free people should be able to own any and all firearms, tanks, whatever. If we use them to harm others there should be stiff consequences.

I understand language matters, and correct words can make a big difference. I also understand we use words to communicate ideas, and if we (as a people) differ on some terms, but understand the intended message, we can get along.

The origin and correct usage of terms like rights, privilege authority duty morals ethics, etc could be an interesting and lively debate in a different time and place.

I'm truly pleased we could find common ground.

[OlBill]

Actually the term "civilian" can also be used to describe someone who is not part of a group. Like professional poker players might refer to casual tourists as "civilians". This might be more of a slang term, though. I'm not sure how this relates to the topic of this thread, though.

It sounds like a term of derision. Like a mark.

[Soccerdad1995]

Actually the term "civilian" can also be used to describe someone who is not part of a group. Like professional poker players might refer to casual tourists as "civilians". This might be more of a slang term, though. I'm not sure how this relates to the topic of this thread, though.

It sounds like a term of derision. Like a mark.

In the case I cited, it could be taken that way. It means someone who is not very good at the game, and who will play in a pretty straightforward manner. I'm not sure whether that would be considered a term of "derision" though. Personally, I think it is more derisive to say that someone is a habitual gambler. Saying that they are a tourist who is not a regular poker player is not an insult. It's just a statement of fact.

I think this falls under the "outsider" part of the definition that someone quoted above.

[Pawpaw]

When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.

A local police officer was a "civilian cop".

It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".

[oljames3]

When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.

A local police officer was a "civilian cop".

It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".

Yep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.

[Allons]

When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.

A local police officer was a "civilian cop".

It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".

Yep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.

[Pawpaw]

When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.

A local police officer was a "civilian cop".

It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".

Yep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.

Believe it or not, we said the same thing in the Air Force.

[oljames3]

When I was in the military, it seemed pretty obvious. Anyone who didn't wear a military uniform was a civilian.

A local police officer was a "civilian cop".

It was also very common for someone who was getting ready to separate or retire to brag they were being "promoted to civilian".

Yep. We often referred to a retiree as being promoted to PFC.

Believe it or not, we said the same thing in the Air Force.

Indeed. We can be an uncouth band of brothers.

[ninjabread]

Actually the term "civilian" can also be used to describe someone who is not part of a group. Like professional poker players might refer to casual tourists as "civilians". This might be more of a slang term, though. I'm not sure how this relates to the topic of this thread, though.

It sounds like a term of derision. Like a mark.

Even if it's not an insult, it's a clear sign of 'us' versus 'them' mentality.

[Bill O'Rights]

Based on their policy it doesn't sound like they're anti-cop so much as anti-gun because their policy prohibits you and me from open carrying too.