Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

Topics that do not fit anywhere else. Absolutely NO discussions of religion, race, or immigration!

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

How much of the debate did you watch tonight?

Less than 25%.
35
34%
25-50%
8
8%
50-75%
5
5%
The whole enchilada!
56
54%
 
Total votes: 104


WTR
Banned
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1931
Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:41 pm

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#46

Post by WTR »

Possibly Trump is counting on the recency effect and waiting for the third debate to bring out his big guns. He sure wasn't impressive tonight.
User avatar

Glockster
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 1075
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:48 am
Location: Kingwood, TX

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#47

Post by Glockster »

Professional liars are just that, really really good at telling tales to fit their agenda. And politicians who have spent decades creating the problems that we now have are professional liars and have much more practice at looking very good during debates. This was Trumps very first one on one debate, and he not only had to deal with that but also that the moderator demonstrated some clear bias against him. I agree that he could have come across better, and that he missed some opportunities to really nail the professional liar. But hopefully the point that he isn't a career politician who has had decades to solve the problems and failed, will continue to resonate with voters. And hopefully he's learned a lot from this first opportunity.
NRA Life Member
My State Rep Hubert won't tell me his position on HB560. How about yours?
User avatar

The Annoyed Man
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 26852
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:59 pm
Location: North Richland Hills, Texas
Contact:

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#48

Post by The Annoyed Man »

“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"

#TINVOWOOT
User avatar

XinTX
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 440
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:27 pm
Location: League City

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#49

Post by XinTX »

I could only stomach a few minutes, then got up and went into my work room to check on a few things. The MUCH better half watched a bit more of it. I did walk in to hear Trump agree with HiLIARy about use of the "No Fly List" to deny 2A rights. I find that highly troubling. I have a hard enough time with the "list", especially when it's used against citizens. To expand it to denial of our Constitutional rights absent first being given due process is flat our WRONG.
“Public safety is always the first cry of the tyrant.” - Lord Gladstone

parabelum
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 2717
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:22 pm

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#50

Post by parabelum »

According to drudge, CNBC and time poll, this one goes to trump.

Drudge:
81% Trump/18% Witch - 398k votes

http://drudgereport.com/flashnyd.htm

Time:
52% Trump / 48% Witch - over 1 million votes

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-de ... mp-survey/

CNBC:

64% Trump/ 36% Witch 660K votes

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/vote-who ... ebate.html
User avatar

Bitter Clinger
Banned
Posts in topic: 7
Posts: 2593
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:16 pm
Location: North Dallas

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#51

Post by Bitter Clinger »

Lester Holt was in the bag for Hitlery. He lied about stop and frisk and he lied about Trump's position on Iraq. :mad5
"You may all go to H3ll, and I will go to Texas." - Davy Crockett
"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything." - Wyatt Earp
NRA Life Member
לעולם לא תשכח

parabelum
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 2717
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:22 pm

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#52

Post by parabelum »

Didn't expect any less from Lester. She fired off all cannons against Trump, and, at least according to polls, Trump pulled ahead.

I expect Trump to take CO and PA in next two-three weeks.
User avatar

Diesel42
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 364
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:08 am
Location: Fort Worth

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#53

Post by Diesel42 »

Reading this thread is funny. I refuse to watch, just like I never watched Survivor. Y'all got four episodes with crafted competitions, then the viewers get to vote one of them off the island.

Everyday I pray for our country, IMO media is feeding the Fifth Column.
My two cents,
Nick
Nick Stone
Have Truck, Will Travel
NRA Life Member
User avatar

allisji
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 969
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:44 am
Location: Seabrook

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#54

Post by allisji »

Trump was underprepared. He had so many missed opportunities. He let her off the hook for the emails, he didn't drive home his points on the Iranian nuke deal, on North Korea, etc. He didn't make his point on how her and Obama's Iraq policies created the rise of isis or how us leaving tanks and weapons in Iraq helped to arm isis. She talked about how her tax plan would benefit workers. How? By taxing us till we can't pay our mortgages and giving out entitlements to people who are blatantly abusing the system? I felt like I was watching Trump hit a bunch of foul balls. He just never was able to make solid contact.
LTC since 2015
I have contacted my state legislators urging support of Constitutional Carry Legislation HB 1927

parabelum
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 2717
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:22 pm

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#55

Post by parabelum »

Diesel42 wrote:Reading this thread is funny. I refuse to watch, just like I never watched Survivor. Y'all got four episodes with crafted competitions, then the viewers get to vote one of them off the island.

Everyday I pray for our country, IMO media is feeding the Fifth Column.
My two cents,
Nick
Media, that's supposed to be 4'th estate, is the 5'th column.

parabelum
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 2717
Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:22 pm

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#56

Post by parabelum »

allisji wrote:Trump was underprepared. He had so many missed opportunities. He let her off the hook for the emails, he didn't drive home his points on the Iranian nuke deal, on North Korea, etc. He didn't make his point on how her and Obama's Iraq policies created the rise of isis or how us leaving tanks and weapons in Iraq helped to arm isis. She talked about how her tax plan would benefit workers. How? By taxing us till we can't pay our mortgages and giving out entitlements to people who are blatantly abusing the system? I felt like I was watching Trump hit a bunch of foul balls. He just never was able to make solid contact.

30 years to think about it. Posted how to fight ISIS on website. Experience, yes, but bad experience.

He had some zingers that will stick.

She looked like a frazzled tomato.

striker55
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 979
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:27 am
Location: Katy, TX

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#57

Post by striker55 »

Skiprr wrote:And Lester Holt has no control over this thing, and is blatantly displaying his and NBC's bias by directly attacking Trump. Hitting him right now about his tax returns. Holt is letting Clinton run and trying to pin down Trump. :mad5
Totally agree, Holt was giving tough questions to Trump, he definitely is a Clinton supporter. I thought that would happen.
I think Hillary did better than Trump but would not vote for her, she is a liar and more into power than anything else.
User avatar

allisji
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 969
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:44 am
Location: Seabrook

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#58

Post by allisji »

parabelum wrote:
allisji wrote:Trump was underprepared. He had so many missed opportunities. He let her off the hook for the emails, he didn't drive home his points on the Iranian nuke deal, on North Korea, etc. He didn't make his point on how her and Obama's Iraq policies created the rise of isis or how us leaving tanks and weapons in Iraq helped to arm isis. She talked about how her tax plan would benefit workers. How? By taxing us till we can't pay our mortgages and giving out entitlements to people who are blatantly abusing the system? I felt like I was watching Trump hit a bunch of foul balls. He just never was able to make solid contact.

30 years to think about it. Posted how to fight ISIS on website. Experience, yes, but bad experience.

He had some zingers that will stick.

She looked like a frazzled tomato.
He got some hits, but I think that Kellyann Conway is probably slapping him today. I expect a much better prepared Trump in the second and third debates. He really had some opportunities to land some haymakers.
LTC since 2015
I have contacted my state legislators urging support of Constitutional Carry Legislation HB 1927
User avatar

allisji
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 969
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:44 am
Location: Seabrook

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#59

Post by allisji »

The media are loving every minute of it. It's all about ratings for them. Cnn, NBC, Fox, they are all the same. They will bash one candidate until the polls tighten and then bash the other candidate. It's all about viewers and clicks, and not at all about journalism. They are trying to drive the election in whatever way will put more cash in their pockets.
LTC since 2015
I have contacted my state legislators urging support of Constitutional Carry Legislation HB 1927

philip964
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 18226
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:30 pm

Re: Trump vs. Clinton Round 1

#60

Post by philip964 »

This morning on the Today show they had "Fact Checking" Donald Trump said crime was up in NYC. Fact Checking = False!!

Crime is down in NYC since 2010 is what they then said.

My memory Trump did not give a time frame when he said crime was up in NYC. I am sure he was pointing to a study that shows crime is up since 2014, since Furguson when the Obama and the Federal Government went to war against local police.

This is how the news is today, They do anything to help Hillary win.

Fact checking is just another way to lie now.
Post Reply

Return to “Off-Topic”