House Party: CC OK?

[tbryanh]

Is it OK to conceal carry at someone's house party they invited me to so long as they don't have any 30.06 signs posted?

[Oldgringo]

In this instance, manners and personal relations might trump legalities. How would you feel if the neighbors brought their dog and/or kids to your party?

[Soccerdad1995]

It depends on what you mean by "OK". It's legal unless you have received notice. You may want to mention something to the party host if you value the friendship and don't already know their feelings about guns in their home. Again, it depends on whether "OK" means legal, or something else.

Also, it would be illegal if you drink to the point of intoxication while carrying.

I just hosted a party at my home over the weekend, and I carried up until the point that I decided to start drinking, which is when I locked up my gun in the safe.

[rotor]

In this instance, manners and personal relations might trump legalities. How would you feel if the neighbors brought their dog and/or kids to your party?

My concealed dog? My concealed kids?
The purpose of concealed is to conceal. If you have qualms about this ask the person sponsoring the party. If they say no that means no. I don't think any level of alcohol and firearms are acceptable.

[AF-Odin]

I have no problem with someone coming into my home carrying concealed or even open. In fact, I hosted an Open carry BBQ to show off your BBQ gun on 1 January when it became legal. I do have a problem if they bring small children or pets to an evening, adult function. Something has changed since my generation when evening social events were invited adults only unless specified that kids were OK too. Now, seems as if everyone brings kids to everything. I have even seen small children (not infants) at formal functions and parents insisting on seating and meals for their kids.

[Soccerdad1995]

In this instance, manners and personal relations might trump legalities. How would you feel if the neighbors brought their dog and/or kids to your party?

My concealed dog? My concealed kids?
The purpose of concealed is to conceal. If you have qualms about this ask the person sponsoring the party. If they say no that means no. I don't think any level of alcohol and firearms are acceptable.

The part I bolded is your personal opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. Others are entitled to their personal opinion about concealed guns in their homes.

Question for you. I assume you are OK with someone carrying at a party in your home. If so, would you still be OK with that person having a few drinks as long as they were not intoxicated, or would your approval of their CC be conditional on a requirement that they not drink at all?

[Scott Farkus]

I found myself conceal carrying into the house of one of my anti-gun relatives recently. I didn't do it intentionally - we had all been out to dinner and came back to their house afterwards to hang out. I had carried to dinner (no drinking) and wasn't even thinking about it. I realized it about 10 minutes in when my cousin made one of his frequent snide comments about the evil that is the NRA. I figured concealed was concealed and since he hadn't said anything specifically about not carrying in his home, he had no 30.06 signs posted (obviously, nobody does that to their private residence nor should they) and it would have just drawn attention where none existed before had excused myself to take the gun to the truck, I just kept quiet and carried on.

I did feel a little guilty afterwards for violating what I assume - but don't know for sure - would have been his wishes in his home (unlike commercial property, I do strongly believe in the right of private property owners to dictate who carries in their non-commerical property), but again, he's never specifically said "don't ever carry in my house" and frankly, I don't even know that he is aware I have an LTC. So no harm, no foul I guess although next time I'll probably leave it in the truck.

[Jusme]

I found myself conceal carrying into the house of one of my anti-gun relatives recently. I didn't do it intentionally - we had all been out to dinner and came back to their house afterwards to hang out. I had carried to dinner (no drinking) and wasn't even thinking about it. I realized it about 10 minutes in when my cousin made one of his frequent snide comments about the evil that is the NRA. I figured concealed was concealed and since he hadn't said anything specifically about not carrying in his home, he had no 30.06 signs posted (obviously, nobody does that to their private residence nor should they) and it would have just drawn attention where none existed before had excused myself to take the gun to the truck, I just kept quiet and carried on.

I did feel a little guilty afterwards for violating what I assume - but don't know for sure - would have been his wishes in his home (unlike commercial property, I do strongly believe in the right of private property owners to dictate who carries in their non-commerical property), but again, he's never specifically said "don't ever carry in my house" and frankly, I don't even know that he is aware I have an LTC. So no harm, no foul I guess although next time I'll probably leave it in the truck.

You can choose your friends you just can't choose your relatives. All of my friends, and relatives, know that I will be carrying. There may be some casual acquaintances, that are unaware, but I don't foresee me going to their house.

Invite him to a range with you sometime. More anti gun folks have changed their minds after actually shooting, than any other way. If nothing else it will at least expose him to people that he can see are not "crazy gun nuts" JMHO

[LucasMcCain]

In this instance, manners and personal relations might trump legalities. How would you feel if the neighbors brought their dog and/or kids to your party?

I would let them know at the door that the dog needs to stay in the yard. I let people I invite to my house know ahead of time whether they should bring their kids or not.

The only time my carrying has impacted my visit to a friend's house was one time that I went to a bible study on my motorcycle open carrying. As I could not leave the gun in my vehicle, I just let them know I was carrying and asked if it was a problem, as I didn't know their feelings about guns. I offered to leave it in our pastor's SUV if they wanted me to. They said it wasn't a problem.

So I guess I agree that if it is a good friend's house and you are concerned that it might affect your relationship if it was discovered that you were carrying and they disapproved, then ask politely and offer to leave it in the car if they want you to. Otherwise, just carry and don't worry about it unless someone says something. Just my pair of pennies.

[tbryanh]

In this instance, manners and personal relations might trump legalities. How would you feel if the neighbors brought their dog and/or kids to your party?

My concealed dog? My concealed kids?
The purpose of concealed is to conceal. If you have qualms about this ask the person sponsoring the party. If they say no that means no. I don't think any level of alcohol and firearms are acceptable.

The part I bolded is your personal opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. Others are entitled to their personal opinion about concealed guns in their homes.

Question for you. I assume you are OK with someone carrying at a party in your home. If so, would you still be OK with that person having a few drinks as long as they were not intoxicated, or would your approval of their CC be conditional on a requirement that they not drink at all?

Me and my wife do not drink, so we would not be providing alcohol to guests, but guests would be free to bring alcohol to our party. We would not mention anything about CC. CC is their business. We would be minding our own business.

I don't differentiate one drink from a hundred drinks. I don't try to determine if someone is intoxicated or not. I just look at whether they are drinking or not. If they are drinking, I would hope that they are not carrying.

I have a relative who is a heavy drinker. Without me ever asking him, he told me that he has an LTC and that he keeps a revolver in his bedroom at his house. He said he doesn't carry the revolver. I acknowledged through eye contact and shaking my head up and down that I understood what he said. I did not make any verbal comments about what he said. He knows I am a gun enthusiast, and he has invited me a couple of times to go to the range with him. I have never took him up on his offers, and I plan to never go to the range with him.

[rotor]

In this instance, manners and personal relations might trump legalities. How would you feel if the neighbors brought their dog and/or kids to your party?

My concealed dog? My concealed kids?
The purpose of concealed is to conceal. If you have qualms about this ask the person sponsoring the party. If they say no that means no. I don't think any level of alcohol and firearms are acceptable.

The part I bolded is your personal opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. Others are entitled to their personal opinion about concealed guns in their homes.

Question for you. I assume you are OK with someone carrying at a party in your home. If so, would you still be OK with that person having a few drinks as long as they were not intoxicated, or would your approval of their CC be conditional on a requirement that they not drink at all?

Soccerdad1995, yes I am OK with people carrying at my house. If they were concealed I wouldn't know anyway since I don't frisk people at the doorway. So, I never know if they are carrying or not when they come to my house. On the issue of alcohol, my personal feeling is that firearms and alcohol don't mix. Intoxicated may be more a legal term. This forum has many posts about alcohol and firearms so I won't redo the posts, I am just stating my personal opinion. I also have a commercial pilots license but no longer fly. The 8 hours bottle to throttle time period has always been good for me. I am somewhat biased about alcohol as I get migraines and almost never drink so it easy easy for me to be pious.
Years ago a neighbor had a party at his house, alcohol was served, a guest left and crashed his car into the car of a lady who became paralyzed from the neck down. The lawsuits were huge and the person that held the party (my neighbor) lost a multi million dollar judgement.
You are correct though, the part that you bolded is my opinion.

[KLB]

My rule of thumb is that carrying into someone else's home is a breach of etiquette, and I don't do it. An organization I belong to regularly meets in the home of one of the members. My guess is that she would be uncomfortable if she thought I was carrying. I have not and will not ask her. I just leave it in the car when at her house.

I make an exception for people whom I know would not mind. That mostly boils down to family.

[tbryanh]

Does the 51% rule apply at a house party?