Pokemon Go! as a nuisance to other outdoor activities

[goose]

I'm against doing anything with a cell phone while driving a car. It's stupid and dangerous, and it's the absolute number one killer of motorcyclists.

Absolutely. My boys know that if they want a Poke' chauffeur, they better be willing to man my phone and get me the goodies too!

However, I am also against drinking alcohol while driving a car. Does this mean we should make drinking alcohol illegal? No. It means we should ban drinking alcohol while driving a car. So that's what we did. Banning cell phone use while driving is a great idea. Banning some dumb game, not so much. I'm told the game won't work if your phone detects that you're travelling more than 35 mph. I don't know if that's true or not, as I don't play this game. If so, let's drop that to about 15 mph. That should keep people from playing while driving.

With the newest update there is simply a screen that pops up and says something akin to "We detected that you are traveling quickly. Don't play and drive." The button to make the pop-up go away says, "I am a passenger" For a cranky person it is lame, and I might tend to agree. But it lets them give a warning/mini-education, gets them off the hook legally, lets the other three folks in the car keep playing. It doesn't actually disable the game. Perfect? no. Does it address safety while managing the marketability of their product? I think so. Heck, my last power drill had a safety icon warning me not to use it while standing in a bathtub of water.

As far as players committing other acts of foolishness while playing, comparisons to guns, cars, alcohol, disc golf, dirtbike riding, geocaching, etc. are all valid as far as I'm concerned. There are dumb people in every segment of society. Dumb people do dumb things. Getting rid of a dumb game won't get rid of dumb people. It will just make them find something else to do.

[steveincowtown]

I'm against doing anything with a cell phone while driving a car. It's stupid and dangerous, and it's the absolute number one killer of motorcyclists.

However, I am also against drinking alcohol while driving a car. Does this mean we should make drinking alcohol illegal? No. It means we should ban drinking alcohol while driving a car. So that's what we did. Banning cell phone use while driving is a great idea. Banning some dumb game, not so much. I'm told the game won't work if your phone detects that you're travelling more than 35 mph. I don't know if that's true or not, as I don't play this game. If so, let's drop that to about 15 mph. That should keep people from playing while driving.

We don't need to ban cell phone usage, LEOs just need to enforce the laws already on the books. Distracted driving is already a ticket-able offense.


Also, if someone injures my family or myself while playing Pokemon, texting, etc., an Attorney is not what they will need.

[carlson1]

I have read on this thread how all of this is just a group of innocent folks playing a game and we shouldn't complain. A group of the babies "playing the game" (about 12 suspects) plowed down a fence at the Roseland Cemetary in Tyler and drove inside. Tyler PD responded with a tactical team ($$$$) and the it is my understanding that the fence they destroyed was $6200.00 to replace. I know just leave them alone they are innocent folks just having fun.

Again, are we, the 2A crowd really going to be throwing stones at an activity that has an occasional bad apple? Really? The 2A would be gone by lunch tomorrow if out of millions of users we only had to focus on a few folks that are probably idiots no matter what activity they take up. As posted further up in the thread a gun owner killed a Pokemon Go player. Compared to a fence, that isn't even close. I guess we should also leave those innocent gun owners alone too. They're just having fun.

Angry about a fence and the desecration of a cemetery, 100% valid. Throwing an entire group of folks under the bus for the actions of a few? Seems like a tactic I've seen used a lot by the other side. Prior to this thread I would have hoped that we collectively would have been above that. But alas, it seems to keep coming up.

There has been more than just a fence. There have been injury's, thefts, deaths, robberies, etc... Ignore it if you wish, but it is a mounting problem. It may be a "game" to some to others it is "criminal." Property owners have no control over their property being made targets. It boils down to an immature generation that have no control. They have taken their adolescent activities on to others private property.

There is nothing else to be said because it is obvious there are a few (who have never grown up) who just do not respect property, property rights, and in many cases life. It is all about an imaginary character.

There is a way to have your property removed from the game as many have done so I'm my area. We have them coming into our campus late at night playing Pokemon and have yet to encounter a problem. Stop painting everyone playing a game with a negative brush. The actions of a few don't speak for the majority.

Like I said there is nothing else to be said about the childush game. "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

[Abraham]

I wonder what the average age is for the Poke people?

10 to 20 something?

If in their 20's, (or sadly, older) they probably live with their parents, still get around on skateboards (when not borrowing their parents car) and refer to eveyone as 'dude'.

I'm sure they place getting a job far below 'playing' Poke.

[Pariah3j]

I wonder what the average age is for the Poke people?

10 to 20 something?

If in their 20's, (or sadly, older) they probably live with their parents, still get around on skateboards (when not borrowing their parents car) and refer to eveyone as 'dude'.

I'm sure they place getting a job far below 'playing' Poke.

People in their 20's or younger, grew up on Pokemon via video games and media (cartoons episodes, movies, etc) - So they probably are more app to play Pokemon Go.

Saying because someone likes a video game they still live with their parents is rather juvenille and short sided there Abraham. There have been about a 2-3 generation of 'gamers' brought up playing video games now from the old Arcades, to Atari in the living room, and so on. Like most things that is a hobby, the people who really are able to get into it and enjoy it have to spend money on it. This is just a new facet of that hobby/culture.

[Pariah3j]

Like I said there is nothing else to be said about the childush game. "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

Carlson - I've got to take you to task here too. The only thing childish is the quote. Video games or those who enjoy them come from all walks of life, and just because you don't partake does not make them childish. This type of mentality to me feels much the same as those in the Anti-2A group that equate all gun owners as gun nuts because they don't like guns so why should anyone else.

[carlson1]

Like I said there is nothing else to be said about the childush game. "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

Carlson - I've got to take you to task here too. The only thing childish is the quote. Video games or those who enjoy them come from all walks of life, and just because you don't partake does not make them childish. This type of mentality to me feels much the same as those in the Anti-2A group that equate all gun owners as gun nuts because they don't like guns so why should anyone else.

Apples to oranges. We will agree to disagree. I have personally seen the damage done by the adolescents. I have spoken to several Law Enforcment administrators of the problems they cause in there Cities and Counties.

Anyone is allowed to stick their head in the sand if they so choose. Those who do are usually attached to the "game."

Reading the thread I am thankful I am not the only one who sees this as a nuisance and sometimes criminal.

I have said all I need to on this subject.

[LucasMcCain]

I'm in my late 30s and video games are my primary hobby. I'm married, have a job and a college degree, own my own house, pay taxes, am a contributing member of my local church, etc, etc. I never got into pokemon, but I have friends who did. They liked it when they were younger, and this new game has simply rekindled an old interest. One such friend is an engineering professor. He's also married, contributing member of our church and society at large, just bought a house after living in apartments for years, you get the idea. He is a very mature person, but he likes playing games in his spare time. My wife and I have been over to their house to have supper and play board games, and we had a great time.

I would appreciate a little less gross over-generalization from y'all. We are the target of enough of that bovine excrement from the left; you would think we would sling a little less of it at others. Not to mention that if we're being honest, most people have played cell phone games of some kind at some point. Others play facebook games or other such casual games. If you have never played any type of digital game of any kind as an adult, you are severely in the minority at this point.

[Abraham]

Gamers who play at home, wonderful!

Drive a car while 'playing' and cause grief for others, you whoever you may be, should be locked up.

Public nuisance or vandalism and yes, even causing death can't be defended with: Hey man, we were only 'playing' and whining, 'sorry man, didn't mean to cause grief' doesn't cut it.

When you cause grief, I don't care to hear you didn't mean to cause any harm.

Lots of criminals will whine after they do something that results in something plain awful or even tragic in their commision of a criminal act, that "hey man, that wasn't suppose to happen" Uh-huh, but it did...and you're responsible.

[goose]

Apples to oranges. We will agree to disagree. I have personally seen the damage done by the adolescents. I have spoken to several Law Enforcment administrators of the problems they cause in there Cities and Counties.

Did they mention any task forces being set up? Are they implementing new policies to address the multitudes of issues this is creating? I am curious as to how or if they were able to assuage your concerns.

[LucasMcCain]

Gamers who play at home, wonderful!

Drive a car while 'playing' and cause grief for others, you whoever you may be, should be locked up.

Public nuisance or vandalism and yes, even causing death can't be defended with: Hey man, we were only 'playing' and whining, 'sorry man, didn't mean to cause grief' doesn't cut it.

When you cause grief, I don't care to hear you didn't mean to cause any harm.

Lots of criminals will whine after they do something that results in something plain awful or even tragic in their commision of a criminal act, that "hey man, that wasn't suppose to happen" Uh-huh, but it did...and you're responsible.

Is there anyone on here justifying criminal acts committed in connection with playing pokemon or any other video game? Did I miss that?

Hasn't it already been pointed out that driving while messing with your phone is already a crime that simply needs to be better enforced?

Has there been any case in which someone was not charged with a crime they committed because they said they were just playing a game?

I'm just not sure where you're going with this. I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, I just genuinely do not understand what you're objecting to. I think we all agree that if you commit a crime you should be charged with that crime and held accountable for your actions. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your post?

[karder]

Here is the way to play pokemon.

[goose]

Gamers who play at home, wonderful!

Drive a car while 'playing' and cause grief for others, you whoever you may be, should be locked up.

We already have a slough of good laws to address people misbehaving in cars. Or are you suggesting we need more governmental regulations?

Public nuisance or vandalism and yes, even causing death can't be defended with: Hey man, we were only 'playing' and whining, 'sorry man, didn't mean to cause grief' doesn't cut it.

I haven't seen a single person defending vandalism. Can you quote one? As for nuisance, we should also address noise pollution around gun ranges, right? No one will be allowed to do anything that might annoy another. Seems like a great plan.

When you cause grief, I don't care to hear you didn't mean to cause any harm.

Define your grief? And define where anyone in this thread condoned any real damages. Quote one.

Lots of criminals will whine after they do something that results in something plain awful or even tragic in their commision of a criminal act, that "hey man, that wasn't suppose to happen" Uh-huh, but it did...and you're responsible.

hehehehe. Pokemon criminals! Ruining our streets! I challenge you to find how many folks, nation wide (population of 318 million give or take), have been charged with criminal behavior while playing Pokemon Go. Will there be some? Absolutely. Are they causing the demise of our country? Give me a break. Some of us here on this board are acting like this is tantamount to anarchy. To quote Dr. Venkman, "Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together....mass hysteria."

What I have not heard is a single person on this board willing to both bash the game and all of its perils against humanity while addressing personal freedoms and how we should have them corralled. What stipulations will we use to subjugate someone doing stuff we don't like? Or we think are childish? Bigger government telling us what to do? No one has said bigger government but several have talked about the need for government to get involved. Other than enforcing laws that we already have, and they should be enforced, I am just curious how we'll ever get this epidemic reeled in without more government.

[goose]

Here is the way to play pokemon.

If the officer would attach his phone to the dog's collar he'd get credit for all that running. Just sayin'

[goose]

Like I said there is nothing else to be said about the childush game. "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

Carlson - I've got to take you to task here too. The only thing childish is the quote. Video games or those who enjoy them come from all walks of life, and just because you don't partake does not make them childish. This type of mentality to me feels much the same as those in the Anti-2A group that equate all gun owners as gun nuts because they don't like guns so why should anyone else.

All of my questioning about pointing out how we're using the logic of the left has gone unanswered.