Hog Leg carriers

[yerasimos]

This may have been already posted somewhere else on this forum, but apparently this file is being distributed by DPS through LTC instructors for review by new LTC applicants.

https://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/docum ... lsters.pdf

Page 7 looks like to be of primary interest wrt this thread, though I still do not see a clear-cut answer.


Edited to add: link to earlier thread on definition of belt or shoulder holster: http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=78138

[RPBrown]

Out of all of my weapons, the only one I consider being a "hog leg" is my S&W 500

[flechero]

My 2 carry guns in .45 acp are 1911's (STI and a Kimber) they ride in a JM Custom Kydex (IWB #3), Milt Sparks Nexus, UBG Canute or regulator, or a bear claw.

I don't consider any auto a hog leg... that term is usually applied to big ol' revolvers!

[cmgee67]

It's a hog leg if all you have is a 45 Auto lol. One day I'll have a big 7 1/2 inch revolver but today's not that day.

[Wolfgang]

I have a Commander size 1911 in 45ACP. I have both an OWB and IWB holster by Alien gear

[sugar land dave]

Springfield XDm .45 3.8 Compact in Crossbreed Super Tuck

Mine is a full size Rock Island double-stack in a Crossbreed Super Tuck.

[timdsmith72]

Can we OC in a drop leg?

I am not a LTC instructor, lawyer, or expert on this matter. However, my input would be that:

1. I did a search for the word "belt" in Chapter 46, Texas Penal Code (Weapons), and did not find language actually defining what constitutes a belt holster.

2. From what have observed, many/most of the drop leg holsters connect in some manner with a belt to provide support.

3. From a purely practical perspective, it seems to me as though a drop-leg holster may result in hindering accessibility when seated or whenever the hips are flexed, such that the user may find it difficult to get a 100% full grip on the gun prior to draw from holster. Extending/raising the hips (so the upper leg is parallel with the torso, as in a standing position) might make it easier to get the full grip and smooth draw.

Maybe a sandbox veteran, police officer or someone else with extensive experience with these types of holsters can share their experience and any recommendations.

Yes id like to know

From the Houston police Q&A:
If I use a “drop leg” holster that holds my gun around the middle of my thigh, will I get arrested for having an improper holster?
No you will not be arrested for that type of holster. It is still mounted to your belt which is the requirement in the law.

[Take Down Sicko]

I have a Black Hawk 7 1/2 inch barrel stainless steel in 44 mag single action.

[mrvmax]

Out of all of my weapons, the only one I consider being a "hog leg" is my S&W 500

Same here, once you own a 500 anything else seems small.

[NTexCopRetired]

I don't OC at all. In the summer, I carry either my Springfield 45 XDs 3.3 or XDm 3.8 in a Pro Active, under the arm/shirt elastic band. In winter, I have a high ride, Bianca belt holster for my H&K 45 USP. I usually carry my Sig P238 in my front pocket.

[AdioSS]

Years ago I worked private security as a commissioned officer. They had drop leg holsters available for their Glock 17's. A coworker had a couple drop leg holsters for the Beretta 92/96 & gave them to me since that was I preferred to carry. They weren't comfortable around my thick legs & the butt of the gun seemed to knock on door frames much more than hip/belt holsters. Plus, it made drawing while seated more difficult for me. I eventually just went to hip carry all the time.

However, I would like to get a holster to carry my Kel-Tec PLR-16 5.56 pistol Due to the length of that I'll probably have to go with a drop-leg style. That 9.3" barrel plus a compensator would qualify it as a hog leg, right?