Different background checks for ARs vs handguns?

[rob777]

A friend called up yesterday to ask what I knew about the background check process and my response was 'not much'.
The issue he's come across is his son has been able to purchase a couple of handguns over the last year but went to buy an AR this week and was denied.
He has nothing on his record (that he's aware of) but confused that he can pass a background check for a handgun but not an AR. The store did not provide him a reason for the denial. (He does NOT have his LTC so he has to go through the background checks with every purchase)

So my question to you guys is do FFLs have any knowledge of why a person is denied and if so do they have any obligation to say why or are they prevented from saying why?

[RoyGBiv]

Possible that the store got a bad vibe from the son and falsely claimed he was denied?

[Jusme]

It could have been a clerical error when his info was entered, I had a dealer transpose my DOB one time and had to resend it when it was denied.

[G.A. Heath]

He should have been given the information on how to appeal the denial, and a transaction/ID number so that the denial could be referenced for investigation.

[Scott B.]

The NICS check process is the same no matter what the firearm is.

As GA mentions, they should have given him a NICS Delay/Deny card with the NTN written on it and the date. The NTN is the reference number for that particular NICS check. The card provides the web site guide link explaining the appeal process as well as a mailing address.

To aid his appeal, should he decide to do that (and I would encourage that), get a set of rolled prints to send.

NICS does not share the reason for any denial w/ the gun store and they won't tell the denied person over the phone.

http://www.fbi.gov/nics-appeals

[rob777]

Thanks guys! Exactly what I was looking for...

[grent247]

Learn something new every day

[GlassG19]

A friend called up yesterday to ask what I knew about the background check process and my response was 'not much'.
The issue he's come across is his son has been able to purchase a couple of handguns over the last year but went to buy an AR this week and was denied.
He has nothing on his record (that he's aware of) but confused that he can pass a background check for a handgun but not an AR. The store did not provide him a reason for the denial. (He does NOT have his LTC so he has to go through the background checks with every purchase)

So my question to you guys is do FFLs have any knowledge of why a person is denied and if so do they have any obligation to say why or are they prevented from saying why?

Don't know about AR purchases but the FFL dealer(s) I've purchased from told me that nobody but them (the dealers) (not FBI OR AFT) knows what kind of gun you're purchasing when purchasing & have been told the same from other people. Apparently purchasing AR's is different??

[RogueUSMC]

they tell the NICS people if you are buying a handgun, a long gun or a shotgun I believe. No particulars on the gun, just the type.

[stash]

A friend called up yesterday to ask what I knew about the background check process and my response was 'not much'.
The issue he's come across is his son has been able to purchase a couple of handguns over the last year but went to buy an AR this week and was denied.
He has nothing on his record (that he's aware of) but confused that he can pass a background check for a handgun but not an AR. The store did not provide him a reason for the denial. (He does NOT have his LTC so he has to go through the background checks with every purchase)

So my question to you guys is do FFLs have any knowledge of why a person is denied and if so do they have any obligation to say why or are they prevented from saying why?

Don't know about AR purchases but the FFL dealer(s) I've purchased from told me that nobody but them (the dealers) (not FBI OR AFT) knows what kind of gun you're purchasing when purchasing & have been told the same from other people. Apparently purchasing AR's is different??

Well, I don't know about that. On several occasions when purchasing a firearm I heard the LGS person say the word "handgun" when doing the NICS check leading me to believe that the NICS person asked the LGS person what type firearm was being purchase. Why you ask do I not just provide my CHL to make the purchase. Well it has an incorrect abbreviation for the word circle (I live on a circle and the CHL has Cr. instead of Cir.) Some of these LGS people apparently have real sharp eyes. I called DPS and they said to not worry about it but I could request a new license if I wanted to. Figured they had bigger fish to fray so I have not ordered a new one.

[rentz]

only difference would be the extra form they have to do if buying multiple semi auto rifles / multiple handguns.
dealer should tell buyer how to contact ncis to dispute a denial, seems odd they wouldnt do that.

[JALLEN]

There was some extra paperwork when I bought two VP9s in the same transaction last year, something about notifying local law enforcement or something, but it went through on the nod.

Another benefit of 7 decades of responsible, mostly sober, good citizenship.

[C-dub]

A friend called up yesterday to ask what I knew about the background check process and my response was 'not much'.
The issue he's come across is his son has been able to purchase a couple of handguns over the last year but went to buy an AR this week and was denied.
He has nothing on his record (that he's aware of) but confused that he can pass a background check for a handgun but not an AR. The store did not provide him a reason for the denial. (He does NOT have his LTC so he has to go through the background checks with every purchase)

So my question to you guys is do FFLs have any knowledge of why a person is denied and if so do they have any obligation to say why or are they prevented from saying why?

Was this in Texas or some liberal state that would like to ban those evil black guns?

[RogueUSMC]

only difference would be the extra form they have to do if buying multiple semi auto rifles / multiple handguns.
dealer should tell buyer how to contact ncis to dispute a denial, seems odd they wouldnt do that.

one 4473 can have 5 items on it...

[RogueUSMC]

There was some extra paperwork when I bought two VP9s in the same transaction last year, something about notifying local law enforcement or something, but it went through on the nod.

Another benefit of 7 decades of responsible, mostly sober, good citizenship.

where was this? here in Texas?