Holster Question (SERPA)
Holster Question (SERPA)
What do you guys think about the Serpa level 2 holsters? I'm thinking that it could be a pretty solid OC and winter-time CC holster, but I was wondering if anyone has any specific experience (good or bad) with them.
I'm looking at this one:
http://amzn.to/1Spxn82
Any advice would be appreciated!
I'm looking at this one:
http://amzn.to/1Spxn82
Any advice would be appreciated!
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I don't like the concept of using my trigger finger to disengage the locking system. Personally, I have a Safariland with ALS that disengage with your thumb.James88 wrote:What do you guys think about the Serpa level 2 holsters? I'm thinking that it could be a pretty solid OC and winter-time CC holster, but I was wondering if anyone has any specific experience (good or bad) with them.
I'm looking at this one:
http://amzn.to/1Spxn82
Any advice would be appreciated!
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I've used the Serpas for at least a decade without any issues. I'm not running through the sand or getting them dirty and they've worked flawlessly. I've also used them in IDPA matches without any issues. However, I can definitely see how the trigger finger activation of the lever could be an issue. Training and practice with an EMPTY gun is absolutely a must and even more important with this type of holster for that very reason.
Now, I've been ade a recent convert to the Safariland ALS holsters. I recently bought a 7TS for a Glock 21SF with a TLR-1 light mounted. It's a great holster and a great locking mechanism that is activated with the thumb. When they have a 7TS for the Glock 30 I will get one. The motion of activating the locking mechanism with the thumb feels like a more natural action than the one with the finger as on the Serpas.
Now, I've been ade a recent convert to the Safariland ALS holsters. I recently bought a 7TS for a Glock 21SF with a TLR-1 light mounted. It's a great holster and a great locking mechanism that is activated with the thumb. When they have a 7TS for the Glock 30 I will get one. The motion of activating the locking mechanism with the thumb feels like a more natural action than the one with the finger as on the Serpas.
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I have one but I stopped using it after I got custom kydex holster with TLR-2/4 attached.
It is good holster, solid, Pistol stay put with the right gun belt. Train, train your draw until it becomes 2nd nature for your strong arm. If you do not practice, it would slow down the draw and may introduce issues under stress
It is good holster, solid, Pistol stay put with the right gun belt. Train, train your draw until it becomes 2nd nature for your strong arm. If you do not practice, it would slow down the draw and may introduce issues under stress
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I used them quite a bit. I prefer the Safariland.
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I have a few of the Serpa's. While I have never had a problem there are various video's posted of ND's with these holsters and many tactical instructors / classes around the DFW area seem to no longer permit their use in training. Just a heads up that if you buy it, you may not get to train with it.
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Re: Holster Question (SERPA)
I've never had an issue with my SERPA and don't get why people are shooting themselves with them. In drawing the gun my finger is always above the trigger guard. I've since switched to the Safariland ALS and I like this holster much more. I've always thought the obvious release made it known to the BG who would pull the gun from behind could realize he needed to depress the release. The Safariland thumb release is pretty much hidden. The paddle is stiffer making it more comfortable.casp625 wrote:I don't like the concept of using my trigger finger to disengage the locking system. Personally, I have a Safariland with ALS that disengage with your thumb.James88 wrote:What do you guys think about the Serpa level 2 holsters? I'm thinking that it could be a pretty solid OC and winter-time CC holster, but I was wondering if anyone has any specific experience (good or bad) with them.
I'm looking at this one:
http://amzn.to/1Spxn82
Any advice would be appreciated!
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I have one for my g32, I don't see a problem with it, when I depress the button and draw the gun my finger is above the trigger along the frame.
I'm not the biggest paddle holster fan, so I bought the belt attachment.
Good holster to add to the holster drawer.
I'm not the biggest paddle holster fan, so I bought the belt attachment.
Good holster to add to the holster drawer.
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Re: Holster Question (SERPA)
SERPAs are OK and inexpensive. However, due to negligent discharges by some individuals who did not religiously use a finger in the straight indexed position to release the lock, many trainers will not allow the use of SERPA and similar holsters in their classes. For these reasons, holsters using a release that does not involve the trigger finger are a better option. Safariland's ALS (thumb) and GLS (middle finger taking the grip) are two other designs that work well with simple, almost automatic ease and none of the downsides of trigger finger involvement.
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If Safariland makes a 7377 for your pistol, then you should buy one. If they do not, get a pistol that they do make one for.
I have several of Safariland's new 7ts holsters, and they are absolutely perfect; a far cry from their older kydex and suede offerings that were pretty good themselves.
I'm about to go mow the lawn with a G17 in a 7377.
I have several of Safariland's new 7ts holsters, and they are absolutely perfect; a far cry from their older kydex and suede offerings that were pretty good themselves.
I'm about to go mow the lawn with a G17 in a 7377.
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I'm not going to post the whole story again since I'm on my phone, but suffice it to say that I will NEVER use a Serpa holster again if I have a choice in the matter.
I was once one of those who sneered at the people who had problems with them. I changed my mind in a hurry when I had my own experience with them.
As I've said before, (extreme example) you can design a holster that requires you to pull the trigger halfway back to release the retention mechanism and then blame any resulting NDs on a "lack of training" or "improper use". That doesn't make it any less of a stupid design; and IMHO, the Serpa is a stupid design.
Not to mention the cheap and weak construction and the high potential for the release mechanism to get jammed with grit.
There are FAR better alternatives from a host of manufacturers. G-Code, Safariland and others come to mind.
I was once one of those who sneered at the people who had problems with them. I changed my mind in a hurry when I had my own experience with them.
As I've said before, (extreme example) you can design a holster that requires you to pull the trigger halfway back to release the retention mechanism and then blame any resulting NDs on a "lack of training" or "improper use". That doesn't make it any less of a stupid design; and IMHO, the Serpa is a stupid design.
Not to mention the cheap and weak construction and the high potential for the release mechanism to get jammed with grit.
There are FAR better alternatives from a host of manufacturers. G-Code, Safariland and others come to mind.
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Gunsite says they aren't allowed, that's good enough for me.
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Thanks for mentioning G-code. I will look into those products
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Re: Holster Question (SERPA)
Thumb activating is the safest method.Middle Age Russ wrote:SERPAs are OK and inexpensive. However, due to negligent discharges by some individuals who did not religiously use a finger in the straight indexed position to release the lock, many trainers will not allow the use of SERPA and similar holsters in their classes. For these reasons, holsters using a release that does not involve the trigger finger are a better option. Safariland's ALS (thumb) and GLS (middle finger taking the grip) are two other designs that work well with simple, almost automatic ease and none of the downsides of trigger finger involvement.
Beiruty,
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