Hotel question

[The Annoyed Man]

It just seems to make a whole lot more sense to give your business to a company that values your life as much as you do.

[thetexan]

Here's my analysis....

I believe a digital file or, in this case, a website would probably these days be interpreted as a written document since many legal interpretations now consider digital files as a document.

The email was sent to you with prerequisite instructions to review the firearms policy. This would be the equivalent of the hotel sending you a letter that tells you to read the enclosed flyer on which is printed the 30.06 or .07 language. In this case you have received written documentary notice in compliance with 30.06/.07 notification requirements. I believe an instruction to review their 30.06/.07 web site language would be accepted in the same way.

As to signs. There is no requirement for any business to post signs. They can have a doorman who passes out cards or documents to each person entering the business and serve 30.06/.07 notice that way.

So the lack of signs doesn't necessarily mean that the business is not making notifications orally or with documentation which now might legally include electronic documents such as html web pages.

tex

[cyphertext]

My wife and I will be staying in a hotel this weekend. She made the reservation through Priceline.com. I have no clue what hotel it even is... never did the paperwork, never signed a thing. So, my point is, they will have to have signage, or otherwise I will not have been given effective notice.

[Oldgringo]

Don't ask, don't tell and don't stay there again.

[chamberc]

My wife and I will be staying in a hotel this weekend. She made the reservation through Priceline.com. I have no clue what hotel it even is... never did the paperwork, never signed a thing. So, my point is, they will have to have signage, or otherwise I will not have been given effective notice.

If they post the hotel, and it was on their website, you've been given effective notice.

[pushpullpete]

It just seems to make a whole lot more sense to give your business to a company that values your life as much as you do.

Exactly Sir.

[thetexan]

My wife and I will be staying in a hotel this weekend. She made the reservation through Priceline.com. I have no clue what hotel it even is... never did the paperwork, never signed a thing. So, my point is, they will have to have signage, or otherwise I will not have been given effective notice.

It is not a factual statement that "...they will HAVE TO HAVE (there's one of those imperative words) signage, or otherwise you will not have given effective notice..."

There is no "effective notice". You're referring to effective consent. Notice is not "effective". It either is or isn't given.

There IS NO REQUIREMENT for signage. Signage is only one of three methods of notification. You made your reservation via Priceline. Ok. When you checked in and completed the contract (or whenever you completed the contract) were you given notification by one of the three methods. The answer to that question will either be YES or NO. Which is it?

If you were given notice after signing the contract and thus we're not made aware of all of the conditions and terms of the contract then it can be voided and you can go somewhere else. That is basic contract law. If you were given those terms prior to signing then you have a valid contract and you agree to those terms at signing.

Again, it has to be one or the other. Which is it.

tex

[Skiprr]

There is no "effective notice". You're referring to effective consent. Notice is not "effective". It either is or isn't given.

See PC §46.035. The phrase "effective notice" is used five times.

[rotor]

Wasn't the law changed that required hotels with 30.06 signage to also post on the internet that they were 30.06 restrictive. This was to prevent people from booking hotels on line and then arriving at the hotel to find they were posted. I don't think that posting on line by itself is notice. This of course can be argued but it would not be very logical to just post online as this would not prevent the general public from carrying at that hotel, Lots of people go in and out of hotels without booking rooms.

[rotor]

In addition, the hotel has to state the policy when making reservations. 2013 law I believe.

[RetNavy]

two things to confuse the issue even more...

first.... OP stated he was in the "waiting room". doesnt have his LTC so either way the wording in the email is non applicable since that only applies to a LTC holder. Carrying under MPA and by law allowing you carry to and from your "residence" this case your room inside the motel..


second thing... my wife travels alot for her work.... work makes the reservations.... she receives confirmation through her work email.... I never see her emails..... I go with her sometimes..... I have a LTC... she doesnt..... check in a place that put the notice in an email to her.... nothing posted at motel..... effective notice for me or not..... IMHO NO since i havent seen the email.....


Ret

[TexasSully]

Thanks for all the feedback. As I originally said, this hotel is on the list of properties to avoid.Unfortunately, I am finding quite a few Hilton branded properties becoming unfriendly to gun owners. That is a shame, because I have earned some status for previous stays and I like the perks. I guess I will have to find another chain and build up status with them.

[Swoops1]

Don't ask, don't tell and don't stay there again.

By no means advocating breaking the law but, concealed means concealed.

[Richbirdhunter]

As a registered guest at the hotel isn't that your temporary residents ? I thought you could treat that as your home?