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Re: Combined 30.06 and 30.07 sign

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Unocat wrote:
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T.Chaney wrote:If the sign doesn't meet the several legal requirements,carry on! I see signs all the time that are worded wrong,generic,or don't meet the proper letter size ect.[sic]I carry right past them.Concealed is Concealed.If nobody has cause to verbally inform you,then why out yourself.
That will work until you're in a situation where you have to use your firearm, then, be aware, if the sign is close it might be used against you. It may not make a difference with criminal charges, but may very well have bearing in a civil case.
True, when it comes down to it anyone can be arrested for anything... and anyone maybe sued civily for anything. If I am pulling my pistol, it is because the alternative would have been the long sleep for me, my wife or friends. The old adage of "I'd rather be judged by nine, than carried by six" comes to mind.
And of course, a small possibility of an AD.
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Re: Combined 30.06 and 30.07 sign

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chamberc wrote:
Unocat wrote:
chamberc wrote:
T.Chaney wrote:If the sign doesn't meet the several legal requirements,carry on! I see signs all the time that are worded wrong,generic,or don't meet the proper letter size ect.[sic]I carry right past them.Concealed is Concealed.If nobody has cause to verbally inform you,then why out yourself.
That will work until you're in a situation where you have to use your firearm, then, be aware, if the sign is close it might be used against you. It may not make a difference with criminal charges, but may very well have bearing in a civil case.
True, when it comes down to it anyone can be arrested for anything... and anyone maybe sued civily for anything. If I am pulling my pistol, it is because the alternative would have been the long sleep for me, my wife or friends. The old adage of "I'd rather be judged by nine, than carried by six" comes to mind.
And of course, a small possibility of an AD.
no actually because there is no such thing as an accidental discharge, its negligent because you forgot the first rule of fire arms. period dot end of discussion
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Re: Combined 30.06 and 30.07 sign

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Yes. There ARE accidental discharges. Not every unintended discharge is a result of negligence. They're not common, but they happen. Open bolt guns with worn sears... Hammer dropping after charging slide... Not ALWAYS preventable... :???:
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Re: Combined 30.06 and 30.07 sign

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ScottDLS wrote:Yes. There ARE accidental discharges. Not every unintended discharge is a result of negligence. They're not common, but they happen. Open bolt guns with worn sears... Hammer dropping after charging slide... Not ALWAYS preventable... :???:
yes actually they are ALL preventable, open bolt use the correct ammo not some cheap junk, disconnector is worn replace it, maintain your equipment not your excuses again there is NO SUCH THING as an accidental discharge of a firearm period :banghead:
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ScottDLS wrote:Yes. There ARE accidental discharges. Not every unintended discharge is a result of negligence. They're not common, but they happen. Open bolt guns with worn sears... Hammer dropping after charging slide... Not ALWAYS preventable... :???:
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Unocat wrote:Sign is not legal. OC is not going to go well there, but I'll CC there all day long.

This. And twice on Sunday.
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Re: Combined 30.06 and 30.07 sign

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JP171 wrote:
chamberc wrote:
Unocat wrote:
chamberc wrote:
T.Chaney wrote:If the sign doesn't meet the several legal requirements,carry on! I see signs all the time that are worded wrong,generic,or don't meet the proper letter size ect.[sic]I carry right past them.Concealed is Concealed.If nobody has cause to verbally inform you,then why out yourself.
That will work until you're in a situation where you have to use your firearm, then, be aware, if the sign is close it might be used against you. It may not make a difference with criminal charges, but may very well have bearing in a civil case.
True, when it comes down to it anyone can be arrested for anything... and anyone maybe sued civily for anything. If I am pulling my pistol, it is because the alternative would have been the long sleep for me, my wife or friends. The old adage of "I'd rather be judged by nine, than carried by six" comes to mind.
And of course, a small possibility of an AD.
no actually because there is no such thing as an accidental discharge, its negligent because you forgot the first rule of fire arms. period dot end of discussion
That is incorrect.
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Re: Combined 30.06 and 30.07 sign

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JP171 wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:Yes. There ARE accidental discharges. Not every unintended discharge is a result of negligence. They're not common, but they happen. Open bolt guns with worn sears... Hammer dropping after charging slide... Not ALWAYS preventable... :???:
yes actually they are ALL preventable, open bolt use the correct ammo not some cheap junk, disconnector is worn replace it, maintain your equipment not your excuses again there is NO SUCH THING as an accidental discharge of a firearm period :banghead:
I cannot honestly say that I take micrometers to each part in my firearms when I clean and maintain them. With the tolerances we are often dealing with, I am not sure how else I could fit your criteria. I hope that it is never an issue for me.
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Re: Combined 30.06 and 30.07 sign

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thetexan wrote:Agreed. But that traffic ticket doesn't make your defense attorney spend extra time and money producing evidence trying to prove the reasonableness of your decision to shoot to a jury who already has evidence that you do not obey the simplest of laws.

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And the alternative is that you see a non-compliant sign, you make a guess that the intent of the property owner is to preclude guns on the property (i.e. the property owner is ignorant), and you enter the store unarmed. You are killed instead of having the ability to defend yourself, and you don't have to worry about being falsely arrested.

I'll just obey the law as written and take my chances if I am falsely arrested for something that is not illegal.
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