The no-fly list fallacy by John Lott

[VMI77]

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2015/12/t ... -very.html

More at the link....closing paragraph:

All this also provides an additional reason for why using the "no-fly" list won't stop terrorists from buying guns. In any case, virtually everyone who is stopped from buying a gun is a false positive, a law-abiding citizen who should have been able to buy but was caught in the Kafkaesque type world that McClintock found himself in. It is something to consider as the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton keep pushing to use the "no-fly" for purchasing guns

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[karder]

The "no guns to people on the no fly list" is a liberal distraction. Maybe my view is overly simplistic, but if we have non-citizens on the no fly list, they need to be sent back to their country of origin after a hearing to determine if the government bureaucrat who put them there has justification.

If a citizen is on a no fly list, authorities need to review their case. Did they do something illegal that requires a grand jury to be called and an indictment sought? If so, authorities need to pursue that path, if not, they need to be removed from the no fly list. I do not support government bureaucrats randomly deciding to put someone on a no fly list, for which the requirements seem to be completely arbitrary, and thus restricting their constitutional rights.

[VMI77]

The "no guns to people on the no fly list" is a liberal distraction. Maybe my view is overly simplistic, but if we have non-citizens on the no fly list, they need to be sent back to their country of origin after a hearing to determine if the government bureaucrat who put them there has justification.

If a citizen is on a no fly list, authorities need to review their case. Did they do something illegal that requires a grand jury to be called and an indictment sought? If so, authorities need to pursue that path, if not, they need to be removed from the no fly list. I do not support government bureaucrats randomly deciding to put someone on a no fly list, for which the requirements seem to be completely arbitrary, and thus restricting their constitutional rights.

I see it as more of a Trojan Horse than a distraction. The supposed justification is to prevent "terrorists" from legally buying guns....that justification is so transparently absurd that the real motive has to be different. I see it as bait and switch. The real motive is to create an enemies list to punish domestic political opposition.

[karder]

I have an acquaintance who is a TV reporter in Miami. He did a report on the TSA that was very negative and found himself on a no fly list soon after. It took him weeks to get off it, and the only reason he got off that quick was because he was threatening another story. Considering the IRS can target political groups they don't like with zero penalty, I don't know why other government organizations wouldn't do it too.