UT Campus Carry - Surprise!!

[RHenriksen]

They have to have a compelling reason for banning weapons (such as a biohazards lab, etc.) Professor Jones' office doesn't qualify, because the law doesn't say pansies can prevent carry.

[ELB]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

This is nuts. Does the law really allow the university regulate how a legally-possessed firearm is carried? I was thinking it was limited to "where."


This is interesting:

The report goes on to note how requiring gun owners to un-holster and store their guns "multiplies the danger of an accidental discharge" ...

Surprisingly UT Is ahead of the military on this one, at least in my experience.

I really couldn't read the rest of it because the Chron seems to have an autoplay add followed by a video report, and it just eats my old computer alive -- I can't stop it, and it gums up all the other processing. Does anyone have a link directly to the UT campus carry rules document?

[tommyg]

I'm a staff worker at the University of Texas Austin. I have to work late
and often have to walk through a bad area ( east of I 35)to get to my car.
The law against campus carry puts me in harms way every night that I have to work.
On top of that I'm a senior citizen that still works for a living.

[PvilleStang]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

This is nuts. Does the law really allow the university regulate how a legally-possessed firearm is carried? I was thinking it was limited to "where."


This is interesting:

The report goes on to note how requiring gun owners to un-holster and store their guns "multiplies the danger of an accidental discharge" ...

Surprisingly UT Is ahead of the military on this one, at least in my experience.

I really couldn't read the rest of it because the Chron seems to have an autoplay add followed by a video report, and it just eats my old computer alive -- I can't stop it, and it gums up all the other processing. Does anyone have a link directly to the UT campus carry rules document?

See my post from the previous page.

Or,
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news ... Report.pdf

[ELB]

'stang, thanks!

[VoiceofReason]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

I doubt seriously that will fly.

I don’t think that will fly.

Who is going to go around checking guns to see if one is chambered? If they could get away with that, what would stop them from stipulating all guns must be carried unloaded, with a trigger lock on them? You know they would do that if they could.

[Charles L. Cotton]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

The Code gives colleges authority to determine where handguns can be carried, not how they can be carried.

Chas.

[Pariah3j]

How Handguns Must Be Carried and Stored.
These recommendations are designed to ensure that
handguns will be carried and stored on campus in the
safest way possible.
• License holders who carry a handgun on campus
must carry it on or about their person at all times or
secure their handgun in a locked, privately-owned or
leased motor vehicle. “About” the person means that
a license holder may carry a handgun in a backpack or
handbag, but the backpack or handbag must be close
enough to the license holder that he or she can grasp
it without materially changing position.
• Handguns – including those carried in backpacks
and handbags – must be carried in a holster that
completely covers the trigger and the entire trigger
guard area. The holster must have sufficient tension
or grip on the handgun to retain it in the holster even
when subjected to unexpected jostling.
• Semiautomatic handguns must be carried without a
chambered round of ammunition.

This whole section is null and void as far as I can tell... concealed carry doesn't have any requirements, and they don't have the legal authority to tell their students how they must carry.

I don’t think that will fly.

Who is going to go around checking guns to see if one is chambered? If they could get away with that, what would stop them from stipulating all guns must be carried unloaded, with a trigger lock on them? You know they would do that if they could.

See my comment above, but the whole section is null and void.

[Pariah3j]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

The Code gives colleges authority to determine where handguns can be carried, not how they can be carried.

Chas.

[treadlightly]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

You are all making too much out of this very reasonable provision.

This is merely to synchronize gun policy with UT didactic policy, which for generations has permitted lecturing, particularly in certain departments, without benefit of a brain in the cranial chamber.

[TXBO]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

You are all making too much out of this very reasonable provision.

This is merely to synchronize gun policy with UT didactic policy, which for generations has permitted lecturing, particularly in certain departments, without benefit of a brain in the cranial chamber.

LOL. I see the folly of my ways.

[VoiceofReason]

Open carry demonstrators plan 'mock shooting' during UT finals week.

http://www.chron.com/local/education/ca ... 686838.php

Dumb, stupid, crazy idiots, do these people work for Bloomberg?

[UTMacGuy]

This is the part I'm having trouble with:

• The occupant of an office to which he or she has
been solely assigned and that is not generally open
to the public should be permitted, at the occupant’s
discretion, to prohibit the concealed carry of a
handgun in that office.

• If the occupant’s duties ordinarily entail meeting
people who may be license holders, the occupant
must make reasonable arrangements to meet them in
another location at a convenient time.

This might not be a big issue for a lot of faculty and staff but for technology staff that have to go to many offices daily, that's an issue. But, just having the ability to carry all the way from the parking garage to my office is a big plus. Like a fellow CHL holder in my building said, "Baby Steps"!

[NotRPB]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

The Code gives colleges authority to determine where handguns can be carried, not how they can be carried.

Chas.

Americans With Disabilities Act lawsuit might could fix that one, but as Charles said, they're making stuff up that they have no authority to do

[ELB]

I found it surprising that UT Austin as two 51% bars. (p 17):

4. The premises of a business that has a permit or
license issued under designated chapters of the
Alcoholic Beverage Code, if the business derives 51
percent or more of its income from the sale or service of
alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption.

RECOMMENDATION # 7:
Any premises on campus that meets the requirements
of TPC § 46.035(b)(1) must provide notice in
accordance with Texas Gov’t Code § 411.204.
Comment: This exclusion is found in TPC § 46.035(b)
(1). It applies at least to the Cactus Café in the Student
Union and to Gabriel’s Café in the AT&T Executive
Education and Conference Center. Section 46.035(k)
specifies that notice must be given in accordance with
Texas Gov’t Code § 411.204.

Doing a search of the TABC website, all licenses associated with "University of Texas" are BLUE, not RED. When I search of the names of the two locations (Cactus Café, Gabriel's Café), I get restaurants in other cities that are obviously not the ones at UT Austin (and are BLUE anyway). I suppose it is possible these two locations are licensed under another name entirely, like a contractor hired to run them -- anyone know?