UT Campus Carry - Surprise!!

[Charles L. Cotton]

http://www.chron.com/local/education/ca ... 688949.php

Chas.

[LikWid]

[jrs_diesel]

Well how about that!

[Charles L. Cotton]

This is pure speculation on my part, but I cannot imagine the working group was not in frequent contact with the President. This report would make it very hard for him to deviate significantly from its recommendations. The absolute ban in dorms will likely lead to a law suit as SB11 expressly states that schools can regulate the "storage" of handguns in dorms.

Chas.

[WesTx]

[RHenriksen]

'banning possession in single-occupant offices (if desired by the occupant)' - so, basically no visiting professors to discuss coursework during their office hours w/o a trip back to your car.

Car burglaries will go up.

[Charles L. Cotton]

'banning possession in single-occupant offices (if desired by the occupant)' - so, basically no visiting professors to discuss coursework during their office hours w/o a trip back to your car.

I'm not sure that will fly either. Allowing professors to choose to make their offices off-limits would give legal authority to professors that the statute reserves exclusively to the president and board of regents.

Chas.

[RHenriksen]

'banning possession in single-occupant offices (if desired by the occupant)' - so, basically no visiting professors to discuss coursework during their office hours w/o a trip back to your car.

I'm not sure that will fly either. Allowing professors to choose to make their offices off-limits would give legal authority to professors that the statute reserves exclusively to the president and board of regents.

Chas.

I sure hope not.

[PvilleStang]

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news ... Report.pdf

Excerpt from page 9 defining rules:

Second, TGC § 411.2031(d-1) requires the university to
give “effective notice under Section 30.06, Penal Code,
with respect to any portion of a premises on which license
holders may not carry.” TPC § 30.06 in turn provides that
notice may be given by oral or written communication.
Written communication may take either of two forms. It
may be given individually on a card or document or more
generally through posted signage. Either way, TPC § 30.06
prescribes the precise language the written notice must
contain:
“Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code
(trespass by license holder with a concealed
handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H,
Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing
law), may not enter this property with
a concealed handgun.” TPC § 30.06(c)(3)(A).
For posted signs, this language must appear in both
English and Spanish, in block letters at least one inch
high. The Working Group did a mock-up of this statutorilymandated
signage and determined that these signs will
have to be at least two feet by three feet in dimension.

I thought government entities weren't legally capable of posting a 30.06 notice? Are they errant in publishing this in their findings?

[Jago668]

'banning possession in single-occupant offices (if desired by the occupant)' - so, basically no visiting professors to discuss coursework during their office hours w/o a trip back to your car.

I'm not sure that will fly either. Allowing professors to choose to make their offices off-limits would give legal authority to professors that the statute reserves exclusively to the president and board of regents.

Chas.

I sure hope not.

What if they ask the professors that want it to tell them. Then when they put everything into place they just list that room as one of the many other places. Like you wouldn't say Professor McMillan's office. They could just say Building X Room XXXX is a no carry room. Then I assume they could resubmit plans to the legislature for review every two years to change that as needed. I'm not saying I support it or that I like it. Just a way I see to get it done.

[TXBO]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

[loktite]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

[baldeagle]

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/news ... Report.pdf

Excerpt from page 9 defining rules:

Second, TGC § 411.2031(d-1) requires the university to
give “effective notice under Section 30.06, Penal Code,
with respect to any portion of a premises on which license
holders may not carry.” TPC § 30.06 in turn provides that
notice may be given by oral or written communication.
Written communication may take either of two forms. It
may be given individually on a card or document or more
generally through posted signage. Either way, TPC § 30.06
prescribes the precise language the written notice must
contain:
“Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code
(trespass by license holder with a concealed
handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H,
Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing
law), may not enter this property with
a concealed handgun.” TPC § 30.06(c)(3)(A).
For posted signs, this language must appear in both
English and Spanish, in block letters at least one inch
high. The Working Group did a mock-up of this statutorilymandated
signage and determined that these signs will
have to be at least two feet by three feet in dimension.

I thought government entities weren't legally capable of posting a 30.06 notice? Are they errant in publishing this in their findings?

Colleges and universities have always been exempt from that general provision because carry was prohibited. Now that it's allowed, they will be required to post to prevent carry.

[baldeagle]

"Semi automatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round Of ammunition".

I doubt seriously that will fly.

[baldeagle]

'banning possession in single-occupant offices (if desired by the occupant)' - so, basically no visiting professors to discuss coursework during their office hours w/o a trip back to your car.

I'm not sure that will fly either. Allowing professors to choose to make their offices off-limits would give legal authority to professors that the statute reserves exclusively to the president and board of regents.

Chas.

I sure hope not.

What if they ask the professors that want it to tell them. Then when they put everything into place they just list that room as one of the many other places. Like you wouldn't say Professor McMillan's office. They could just say Building X Room XXXX is a no carry room. Then I assume they could resubmit plans to the legislature for review every two years to change that as needed. I'm not saying I support it or that I like it. Just a way I see to get it done.

They have to have a compelling reason for banning weapons (such as a biohazards lab, etc.) Professor Jones' office doesn't qualify, because the law doesn't say pansies can prevent carry.