Authorities Respond to Report of ’20 Victim Shooting’ Incident in San Bernardino: Fire Dept.

[SewTexas]

hey, does anyone know how long it took for authorities to respond? (it came up in a convo.)

[GeekwithaGun]

about 4 minutes. there was a training exercise in progress near the site.

[VMI77]

More pushback against these "mass shootings" jerks. http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/03/355-w ... shootings/

The poll at the bottom...MSM mistake or Lie is running 99% Lie.

[SewTexas]

about 4 minutes. there was a training exercise in progress near the site.

thank you!

[LSUTiger]

about 4 minutes. there was a training exercise in progress near the site.

Funny how there is always a training exercise in progress near the sites of mass shootings.


Breaking: mass shooting, San Bernardino, plus “training exercise”

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015 ... -exercise/

by Jon Rappoport

December 2, 2015

(Note: The 2nd Update to this article is posted here.)

KTLA reports (“More Than 14 Killed, 14-Plus Wounded After Up to 3 Shooters Open Fire: San Bernardino Police Chief”, Posted 11:19 AM [PST], December 2, 2015, by Tracy Bloom and Melissa Pamer) —here’s a key quote:

“The call first came in at 10:59 a.m. of multiple shots fired from the area of 1365 S. Waterman Ave., San Bernardino Police Department Lt. Richard Lawhead said. The department’s SWAT team was training nearby and was suited, ‘ready to roll’ and responded rapidly, Lawhead said.”

Note: KTLA report updated at 03:29pm [PST], December 2, 2015:

“The call first came in at 10:59 a.m. of multiple shots fired from the area of 1365 S. Waterman Ave. The Police Department’s SWAT team was training nearby and was suited, ‘ready to roll’ and responded rapidly, Lt. Richard Lawhead said.”

—Yet another mass shooting where, by chance, a training exercise was going on during or prior to the event.

San Bernardino, east of Los Angeles. Reports state several shooters in a cluster of three office buildings that employ 600 people, 20 victims down, and shooters apparently at large.

Here is a recent article I wrote about mass shootings paralleling training exercises:



Training exercises dovetail with mass shootings
Nov
21
by Jon Rappoport

Training exercises dovetail with mass shootings

What are the odds?

by Jon Rappoport

November 21, 2015

By Jon Rappoport

Whether mass shootings are approached as the mainstream reports them, or as false flags, staged scenarios, or outright hoaxes, there is a common thread which runs through some of them: official training exercises held just prior to, or at the same time as, the shootings.

I’m not trying to present an all-inclusive list here.

The November 13, 2015, Paris attacks: “Since the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January, from which 16 people died, Paris-area ambulance crews and emergency personnel have taken part in regular exercises designed to test their readiness for possible attacks. One such exercise was held on Friday morning, the day of the latest terror attacks. In a twist of fate, the simulated emergency was a mass shooting, according to Dr. Mathieu Raux, emergency room chief at the Pitié-Salpetrière hospital in Paris.” (Bloomberg, 11/17/15, “Hours Before the Terror Attacks, Paris Practiced for a Mass Shooting”)

The Charleston, South Carolina, church shooting, June 17, 2015: See The Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers Advanced Training Schedule chart (in the article), which lists training courses in various locations. The chart indicates that, in Charleston, there was an “Active Shooter Threat Instructor Program” from June 15 to June 19, which overlapped the church shooting. (humansarefree.com, 6/24/15, “‘Active Shooter Drills’ Took Place in the Same Day as Charleston Shooting…”)

Boston Marathon attack, April 15, 2013: In this case, the training exercise was called off, because the real thing happened before the exercise took place—“…the DHS-funded drill, known as ‘Operation Urban Shield,’ was intended to take place during the summer, according to the Boston Globe — that is until the ‘real’ event beat it to the punch. But the drill itinerary so closely resembles what actually occurred the day of the bombings that even the mainstream media source responsible for bringing it to light could not help but point out this incredible ‘coincidence,’ …The [training exercise] scenario had been carefully planned: A terrorist group prepared to hurt vast numbers of people around Boston would leave backpacks filled with explosives at Faneuil Hall, the Seaport District, and in other towns, spreading waves of panic and fear, explains the Boston Globe…” (Natural News, 6/22/13, “DHS documents prove Boston Marathon bombing was false flag ‘drill’ planned months in advance”)

Sandy Hook school shooting, December 14, 2012: “By grim coincidence, even as the terrible events were unfolding in Newtown on Friday morning, the Putnam County Emergency Response Team (‘ERT’) happened to be assembled for regular training in Carmel, and team members were at that very moment engaged in a mock scenario of an active-shooter in a school. The ERT is comprised of specially trained and heavily armed officers from the Sheriff’s Office and the Carmel and Kent Police Departments. When news broke of the Newtown shooting, the Putnam County ERT commander called Newtown Police and offered to have the ERT respond to the Sandy Hook school, but that response was not needed because Connecticut police had already secured the scene.” (Southeast-Brewster Patch newspaper, 12/18/12, “Sheriff: Putnam Officials to Talk School Safety This Afternoon”)

The July 20, 2012, Aurora, Colorado, “Batman” shooting: “The tragedy that played out in an Aurora movie theater Friday was ironically paralleled as a classroom learning experience in a medical school in Parker the same day. Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is in the middle of holding specialized classes in disaster life support for 150 second-year medical students. Along with response to natural disasters like hurricanes and floods and terrorist attacks, one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack. ‘The irony is amazing, just amazing,’ said Rocky Vista Dean Dr. Bruce Dubin.” (Denver Post, 7/21/12, “Real life shooting imitates training exercise at Parker medical school”)

The Oslo bombing/shooting attack, July 22, 2011: “Only hours before Anders Behring Breivik began shooting children on Utøya, the police emergency squad concluded an exercise where they practiced an almost identical situation. Four days in advance, and also the same Friday the attack was carried out, the police special unit trained on an ongoing terror campaign that was approximately equal to the situation that hours later, met the 22 police officers within the emergency squad on Utøya. As far as Aftenposten has been informed, the training transcended directly into what the policed then faced in the Tyrifjord that very day; a mobile terror attack, in which one or more perpetrators only goal was to shoot as many people as possible and then shoot the police when they arrived. Only 26 minutes after the emergency squad’s training had concluded, the car bomb went off in the government quarter. The Emergency Squad arrived early on the scene.” (publicintelligence.net, 8/30/11, “Norwegian Police Conducted Drill for ‘Almost Identical’ Scenario Minutes Before Utoya Massacre”)

The 7/7/2005 bomb attacks on the London underground: “A fictional ‘scenario’ of multiple bomb attacks on London’s underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005.

“Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.

“The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring:

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don’t want to reveal their name but they’re listening and they’ll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they’d met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on. (BBC Radio Interview, 7 July 2005—as reported at Global Research, 8/8/15, “Ten Years Ago: The London 7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks?”)

9/11/01 attacks on Trade Center and the Pentagon: No less than 22 drills took place on that day, among which was a National Reconnaissance Office exercise in Chantilly, Virginia, involving a simulated plane crashing into a tall building. (See Kevin Barrett’s chart of 9/11 training exercises “The 46 drills, operations, war games, and activities of 9/11”, based on Webster Tarpley’s book, 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA (5th Ed))

"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
— Auric Goldfinger, Goldfinger

Rule 39: There is no such thing as a coincidence.
— Gibbs, NCIS

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015 ... shootings/

[mojo84]

As I said earlier, the inevitable is happening. Couple lone-wolves home grown terrorists went inaction, however, they were novice. They never decided to flee or hide. Did not seek another target. etc...
The more the screws are tightened on ISIS the more of this criminal behavior would pop up.

Only one was "homegrown".

[5thGenTexan]

As I said earlier, the inevitable is happening. Couple lone-wolves home grown terrorists went inaction, however, they were novice. They never decided to flee or hide. Did not seek another target. etc...
The more the screws are tightened on ISIS the more of this criminal behavior would pop up.

Not so sure I agree with the Lonewolf designation. You don't wipe your digital footprint unless you're trying to shield who you were in contact with. I'm sure that if the NSA finds any little digital crumbs that show contact with any "known" Jihadists the idiot in chief will let us know that it was a terrorist plot.

[Pilgrim]

There are a lot of smart people posting on this board who plainly see what is going on in America and other countries in regards to terrorism. Israel government and citizens knows who their enemies are and fight to protect their country. Other countries like France are learning the hard way but are moving in the right direction to fight back. But America? We got a President who doesn't even like saying the word Islamic terrorist and his policies are making it even worse. America is becoming more divided thanks to our President but also because of some of our citizens! What happen to "one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Just the opposite is happening 'one nation not under God, divisible, loss of freedoms, and injustice. Let us hope and pray that the next President is a genuine Christian and some how American citizens turn back to God. I am sorry for the 14 who lost their lives and the others who were hurt.
God Bless America!

[philip964]

First time I have heard this, I figure a gun shop owner in California near the site of the tragedy would know



"The biggest problem is that it was a gun-free zone," said Get Loaded owner Terry McGuire, 49, a bald, burly guy who looks as though he would be right at home among the many cops and deputies to whom he caters. "You aren't allowed to carry guns into county buildings."

I know we all new in our hearts it was a "gun free zone"

I believe this was from a piece in the LA times which is kind of remarkable.

[powerboatr]

and the FBI in DC this afternoon finally stated in a press conference it is terrosism, and will be investigated as such. Even loretta lynch was there, although i suspect to keep the director on point. He said there were indicators of outside influence?
so much for jv teams and the like
doubt very seriously if these two were all there were, the dribble of info if eye opening. Hopefully soon we see a bunch of arrests and details.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/us/ta ... .html?_r=0

[philip964]

Whoa this is new. Criminal disobeying California gun laws.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/rifles-used ... 1449201057

Modified the rifles.

[JALLEN]

First time I have heard this, I figure a gun shop owner in California near the site of the tragedy would know



"The biggest problem is that it was a gun-free zone," said Get Loaded owner Terry McGuire, 49, a bald, burly guy who looks as though he would be right at home among the many cops and deputies to whom he caters. "You aren't allowed to carry guns into county buildings."

I know we all new in our hearts it was a "gun free zone"

I believe this was from a piece in the LA times which is kind of remarkable.

All of California is essentially a gun free zone, outside ones home or place of business, or a gun range.

You can't carry a weapon except hunting or to a range, and it must be locked in your trunk, or locked in a container inside your vehicle.

You can get a CCW permit in some counties. There were 3 issued in San Francisco as of 2011. I had been under the impression there were close to 2,000 of us in San Diego, but the study I saw as of 2011 said 776. LA had 406 permits. San Bernardino had 1804. The most in any county was Kern with 4134. There were 37,475 possible active permits as of Seprenber, 2011 in the state, with a population of 37,259,000 as of 2010. IOW virtually nobody can legally carry a gun in California. This doesn't count Julio in the barrio and his gangbanging buddies who don't give a flip what the law permits or requires.

I had a permit when I lived there. I was a lawyer, real estate broker and business owner, and had had a few death threats. Getting the permit cost more than $500, took quite a few months, several interviews with Sheriff underlings of various dignitudes, 3 of my long time friends had to furnish letters as did my favorite wife and the Boards of Directors of the several corporations I was associated with. I had to complete a weekend of training and pass a shooting test with each of the 3 pistols I could have on my permit, listed by make, model and serial no. I could carry ONLY these pistols. If I had 2 identical pistols, different serial numbers of course, one of which was listed on my permit, carrying the non-listed one was a felony.

As best as I recall now, only courts, airports and bars were off limits. There is no sign law, etc.

[Bladed]

More pushback against these "mass shootings" jerks. http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/03/355-w ... shootings/

USA Today did an article about the confusion over what constitutes a "mass shooting": http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015 ... /76717870/

[JALLEN]

Could anybody actually be this dumb?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HJGB80cSOGE