Carly is surging. Here's her 2A views

[John Galt]

She was very impressive in the group of 7 debate. I'm thinking that as the mess that The Don stirred up in the party begins to sort itself out, Fiorina's polling will improve. When it does, she has a very good shot at VPOTUS. I am NOT saying that she's not qualified for POTUS, but I am saying that, as a relative unknown and political outsider, her chances of getting elected POTUS are not as good as her chances of being somebody's running mate.

While I no longer am a republican (I'm a libertarian-leaning independent), I can easily see the republican party nominating a Bush/Fiorina, Rubio/Fiorina, or Cruz/Fiorina ticket. That said, I'm not certain that I will cast my vote for a republican candidates this time around. It is going to take a lot of convincing. One thing I am absolutely certain of, and that is that I am no more likely to vote democrat than I am to vote communist - there being very little difference between the two........particularly when the DNC chairperson can't/won't even articulate a difference between a democrat and a socialist.

I would gladly vote Cruz/Fiorina.

[C-dub]

How's she looking today? She seems to have done quite well last night.

[puma guy]

How's she looking today? She seems to have done quite well last night.

It will probably be a couple of days until there's a poll that reflects the last debate. I think Donald Trumps performance will have a negative effect as there was nothing substantive in his answers. What he dished out is like when the wind blows his comb over to expose an empty pate.

[VMI77]

How's she looking today? She seems to have done quite well last night.

It will probably be a couple of days until there's a poll that reflects the last debate. I think Donald Trumps performance will have a negative effect as there was nothing substantive in his answers. What he dished out is like when the wind blows his comb over to expose an empty pate.

According to the Drudge poll, Trump won the debate with 52% of the vote. Fiorina was second with 22%.....so maybe not. Next highest was Rubio with 7%. It's not "scientific" but over 650,000 votes so far, so who knows how accurately it reflects voter opinion.


https://polldaddy.com/poll/9081166/?view=results

Edited to add:

I've now seen several other polls on the non-debate debate and the Drudge results are similar to all of them. In one poll where the question was who do you think will win the nomination Trump was on top with 58% and Jeb in second with 15%.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230676

[mojo84]

It all depends who is asked.

http://www.empowertexans.com/features/s ... witterfeed

[VMI77]

It all depends who is asked.

http://www.empowertexans.com/features/s ... witterfeed

Sure it does but wouldn't you expect a poll of Texans to produce a different result than a national poll? Even in this poll Trump was right behind Cruz with 30%. I like Cruz, but in every other poll I've seen he's nowhere near the 32% of this poll......the video I linked to cites other polls, some of which were apparently random sample polls....all of them put Trump #1, and Fiorina #2 at about the same ratio.

Also, I'll point out ...this poll has a sample size of roughly 3300. Last time I looked at the Drudge poll there were 659,000 votes with Trump at 52%. At least one of the other polls cited in the video had a roughly 16,000 vote sample size, and its results were similar to the Drudge results. This non-debate debate was obviously intended to knock Trump out of the lead, and I don't think was intended to boost Fiorina, but so far at least it looks like the RNC isn't getting its desired results.

[mojo84]

VM, I'm not arguing or disputing any of the polls. I just said it depends on who you ask. Your response is just a long winded way of saying exactly what I said.

[SA_Steve]

She has a silver tongue, but her past statements will sink her eventually. Pretty light.

[flechero]

I've learned a lot about our membership by reading this thread.... perhaps more than I wanted to.

The reason I feel like we're doomed again- the whole conservative population seems to tear down candidates we don't like, rather than championing the people/ideas we do like. It simply poisons them all.

[VMI77]

I've learned a lot about our membership by reading this thread.... perhaps more than I wanted to.

The reason I feel like we're doomed again- the whole conservative population seems to tear down candidates we don't like, rather than championing the people/ideas we do like. It simply poisons them all.

No, we're doomed because the GOP sabotages actual conservative candidates like Ted Cruz. A party that purports to be conservative and then champions someone like Mitch McConnell as their Senate leader is a fraud. What people are rebelling against is that fraud and that's why someone like Trump, who may just be pretending to be conservative, is leading the pack

[anygunanywhere]

We still have a long, long way to go, but so far Jeb Bush has very little support. I am encouraged by that. I think he is a worse candidate than his brother.

Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate. The RNC wants him. Hillary will win.

Part of me actually hopes this happens. It will get us through the swirl of the toilet bowl into the sewer. The faster we get to bottom the sooner we can start working to the top again.

[Charles L. Cotton]

We still have a long, long way to go, but so far Jeb Bush has very little support. I am encouraged by that. I think he is a worse candidate than his brother.

Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate. The RNC wants him. Hillary will win.

Part of me actually hopes this happens. It will get us through the swirl of the toilet bowl into the sewer. The faster we get to bottom the sooner we can start working to the top again.

I disagree about Jeb Bush and Hillary. However, if Hillary wins, we will not survive with a Second Amendment or a constitutional form of government. Whoever is in the White House will nominate at least two new Supreme Court Justices, one of whom will replace Kennedy.

Chas.

[Charles L. Cotton]

I'm not happy about the Republican Party either, but the attitude that "it's my guy or nothing" is saying you would rather have a Democrat in the White House. That attitude got us eight years of Bill Clinton which then launched Hillary Clinton's political career. Thankfully, those who feel that way are a vocal, but small percentage of pseudo-Republicans and independent voters. If that opinion were the prevailing one, then the House and Senate would be full of Tea Party folks. They are not and that speaks volumes about the national electorate.

Deal with the world as it is, not as you wish it to be.
Chas.

[anygunanywhere]

I disagree about Jeb Bush and Hillary. However, if Hillary wins, we will not survive with a Second Amendment or a constitutional form of government. Whoever is in the White House will nominate at least two new Supreme Court Justices, one of whom will replace Kennedy.

Chas.

The government in DC is not governing now by the constitution. SCOTUS is a prime example.

[Charles L. Cotton]

I disagree about Jeb Bush and Hillary. However, if Hillary wins, we will not survive with a Second Amendment or a constitutional form of government. Whoever is in the White House will nominate at least two new Supreme Court Justices, one of whom will replace Kennedy.

Chas.

The government in DC is not governing now by the constitution. SCOTUS is a prime example.

So rather than fix the problem, you want to allow further erosion of constitutional protections by electing Hillary, Biden or some other Democrat. No thanks! Don't tell me your Tea Party candidates are the fix, because they can't win the White House.

Again, deal with the world as it is, not as you wish it to be.

Chas.