CJ Grisham announcement

[Crossfire]

I think Charles should run against him!

[mojo84]

I like beef but I do not think a bull in a China shop is a good thing.

Mojo, I don't know where you got that, but I like it, and I'm stealing it, here and now. That EXACTLY summarizes my support of OC law, while decrying the tactics of groups like OCT/OCTC.

Will be using it also.

I like beef but I do not think a bull in a China shop is a good thing.

Mojo, I don't know where you got that, but I like it, and I'm stealing it, here and now. That EXACTLY summarizes my support of OC law, while decrying the tactics of groups like OCT/OCTC.

I'm usually one to steal other's sayings but that one came to my head as I was typing.

[ScooterSissy]

Be careful... Somehow Stickland was elected and we saw how that freak show went.

Very well, for the voters that voted for him.
I understand some folks on here don't like Strickland; but he ran a campaign based on what he said he was going to do, and then he did it. The voters not only went for it the first time, but liked what he did well enough that they did it again.

[ScooterSissy]

The problem is, much of what guys like Stickland, Grisham and others espouse are good solid principles that are very attractive to liberty oriented, small government fiscally conservative individuals. I know quite a few that appreciate Stickland and Huffines standing up for those principles. They even supported themfinancially

They start scratching their heads and reconsidering when I point out how neither of which got much anything accomplished other than rendering themselves impotent when it comes to legislative matters. What they did get accomplished probably could have been done by others without as much rabble rousing. They've also made it hard for anyone to ally them in the future. Being principled is great and that is what we need. We also need people capable of working within the system to navigate us towards those principles. Sorry for pushing to the choir. However, I know some will take issue with what I've said and I can accept and respect you having your position.

I like beef but I do not think a bull in a China shop is a good thing.

Much better put.
I'll toss in though, that often change comes about when there are folks willing to shake up the status-quo. Sometimes, the China shop needs a remodeling.

[Dave2]

I'll toss in though, that often change comes about when there are folks willing to shake up the status-quo. Sometimes, the China shop needs a remodeling.

Yeah, but are the people better off if you turn the bull loose, or if you carefully and methodically examine each wall to determine whether it's structural before removing it?

Would you rather tear down an old building by using a demolition crew, or a tornado?

[Vol Texan]

I'll toss in though, that often change comes about when there are folks willing to shake up the status-quo. Sometimes, the China shop needs a remodeling.

Yeah, but are the people better off if you turn the bull loose, or if you carefully and methodically examine each wall to determine whether it's structural before removing it?

Would you rather tear down an old building by using a demolition crew, or a tornado?

It depends on how bad it is. If it's bad enough, and you cannot get sufficient funding for the demolition crew, then the tornado becomes your only option (AKA the 4 July 1776 method).

I'm not a fan of Grisham's techniques, but I admit that I'm aligned with him politically on many issues. I wouldn't vote for him in a primary (unless his opponent was even worse), but he'd get my vote in the general election, if he were the only conservative choice.

Lucky for him, I'm not in his district, so he can completely discount me and my vote.

[Charles L. Cotton]

The problem is, much of what guys like Stickland, Grisham and others espouse are good solid principles that are very attractive to liberty oriented, small government fiscally conservative individuals. I know quite a few that appreciate Stickland and Huffines standing up for those principles. They even supported themfinancially

They start scratching their heads and reconsidering when I point out how neither of which got much anything accomplished other than rendering themselves impotent when it comes to legislative matters. What they did get accomplished probably could have been done by others without as much rabble rousing. They've also made it hard for anyone to ally them in the future. Being principled is great and that is what we need. We also need people capable of working within the system to navigate us towards those principles. Sorry for pushing to the choir. However, I know some will take issue with what I've said and I can accept and respect you having your position.

I like beef but I do not think a bull in a China shop is a good thing.

Much better put.
I'll toss in though, that often change comes about when there are folks willing to shake up the status-quo. Sometimes, the China shop needs a remodeling.

Give us some examples where this is/was the case in the Texas Legislature.

Chas.

[Charles L. Cotton]

Be careful... Somehow Stickland was elected and we saw how that freak show went.

Very well, for the voters that voted for him.
I understand some folks on here don't like Strickland; but he ran a campaign based on what he said he was going to do, and then he did it. The voters not only went for it the first time, but liked what he did well enough that they did it again.

I didn't hear or see any of his election speeches or comments, but I suspect he never told his supporters how he was going to act, or that he was going to alienate himself to the point that he was utterly ineffective.

Chas.

[G.A. Heath]

I also don't pander for votes. People can support my principles or not. What you see is what you get with me. No lies. No doublespeak.

The way I see it is that this is a bad idea on his part. So I want to see an opponent, or member of the press ask CJ: "Did you have a license to carry a Handgun, or were you carrying illegally when you openly carried in Oklahoma?" If he Answers that he has one I have plenty of references where he, or someone in the know, says he doesn't. If he says that he didn't have a license he admits he broke the law. If he says it's nobody's business then he lied about the doublespeak.

[Right2Carry]

I am pretty sure a certain area south of us will freeze over before Grisham gets elected.

[jmra]

I am pretty sure a certain area south of us will freeze over before Grisham gets elected.

On this we agree.

[mojo84]

I am pretty sure a certain area south of us will freeze over before Grisham gets elected.

On this we agree.

I pray you guys are right.

[jmra]

I am pretty sure a certain area south of us will freeze over before Grisham gets elected.

On this we agree.

I pray you guys are right.

Prayer sure can't hurt. Would hate to see a Jesse Ventura type election surprise.

[harrycallahan]

Be careful... Somehow Stickland was elected and we saw how that freak show went.

Very well, for the voters that voted for him.
I understand some folks on here don't like Strickland; but he ran a campaign based on what he said he was going to do, and then he did it. The voters not only went for it the first time, but liked what he did well enough that they did it again.

I didn't hear or see any of his election speeches or comments, but I suspect he never told his supporters how he was going to act, or that he was going to alienate himself to the point that he was utterly ineffective.

Chas.

I think those that voted for him understood what they were getting.

[The Annoyed Man]

I also don't pander for votes. People can support my principles or not. What you see is what you get with me. No lies. No doublespeak.

The way I see it is that this is a bad idea on his part. So I want to see an opponent, or member of the press ask CJ: "Did you have a license to carry a Handgun, or were you carrying illegally when you openly carried in Oklahoma?" If he Answers that he has one I have plenty of references where he, or someone in the know, says he doesn't. If he says that he didn't have a license he admits he broke the law. If he says it's nobody's business then he lied about the doublespeak.

Zackly.