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Re: FBI report, Active Shooter Incidents 2019

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 2:03 pm
by Grayling813
The left never allows the facts to stand in the way of their lies...

Re: FBI report, Active Shooter Incidents 2019

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 2:59 pm
by Nickgibson72
The data from the FBI is a little misleading. This is referring to active shooter situations, not mass shooting situations. There were 418 mass shootings in 2019, which would give you the more than one a day number.

Re: FBI report, Active Shooter Incidents 2019

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:41 pm
by C-dub
I don't think it is misleading. However, if you'd like to include every little possible thing to inflate the numbers to achieve a predetermined conclusion, go for it. Would you also like to include shootings that were within half a mile of a school that did not involve any of the students from that school as school shootings?
When evaluating shooting incidents to determine if they met the FBI’s active shooter definition, researchers
considered for inclusion:
■ Shootings in public places
■ Shootings occurring at more than one location
■ Shootings where the shooter’s actions were not the result of another criminal act
■ Shootings resulting in a mass killing
■ Shootings indicating apparent spontaneity by the shooter
■ Shootings where the shooter appeared to methodically search for potential victims
■ Shootings that appeared focused on injury to people, not buildings or objects

This report does not encompass all gun-related shootings. Because the risk to civilians in active shooter
incidents appears related to the apparent randomness of so many victims, a gun-related incident was excluded
if research established it was the result of:
■ Self-defense
■ Gang violence
■ Drug violence
■ Contained residential or domestic disputes
■ Controlled barricade/hostage situations
■ Crossfire as a byproduct of another ongoing criminal act
■ An action that appeared not to have put other people in peril (for example, the accidental discharge of a
firearm in a bar or a suicide in a public parking lot)

This methodology was first articulated in A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between
2000 and 2013.5

It was applied to 2019 shooting incidents to ensure consistency.

Re: FBI report, Active Shooter Incidents 2019

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:04 pm
by Grayling813
Wouldn’t every shooting necessarily require at least one “active” shooter? :mrgreen: Those firearms aren’t shooting on their own.

Re: FBI report, Active Shooter Incidents 2019

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 9:45 am
by Paladin
Reviewing the stats:

■4 out of 30 shooters wore body armor. (Hope everyone trains for head or pelvic shots)

■1 out of 30 shooters was killed by a civilian (Jack Wilson)

However:
Citizen Engagement and Casualties
In three incidents, unarmed citizens confronted the shooter, thereby ending the shooting.
■In one incident, a student restrained the shooter. The shooter was apprehended by campus police at the scene.17
■In one incident, a student was killed as he confronted the shooter. Two other students subdued and disarmed the shooter. The shooter and his co-shooter were arrested at different scenes on the school campus.18
■In one incident, a doctor was wounded as he wrestled the gun from the shooter; another doctor and a patient restrained the shooter until law enforcement arrived.19

...Citizens bravely and selflessly confronted the shooter in three incidents. Three citizens (two doctors and a patient) saved medical center colleagues and patients. Two students in two separate incidents lost their lives to save their classmates. One security officer saved fellow congregants.
So citizens stopped 4 out of 30 of these shootings. 5 ended in suicide.

Majority of shooters are males under 30 years old. It is concerning that 6 of these shootings occurred in Texas.

Re: FBI report, Active Shooter Incidents 2019

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:51 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
C-dub wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:41 pm I don't think it is misleading. However, if you'd like to include every little possible thing to inflate the numbers to achieve a predetermined conclusion, go for it. Would you also like to include shootings that were within half a mile of a school that did not involve any of the students from that school as school shootings?
When evaluating shooting incidents to determine if they met the FBI’s active shooter definition, researchers
considered for inclusion:
■ Shootings in public places
■ Shootings occurring at more than one location
■ Shootings where the shooter’s actions were not the result of another criminal act
■ Shootings resulting in a mass killing
■ Shootings indicating apparent spontaneity by the shooter
■ Shootings where the shooter appeared to methodically search for potential victims
■ Shootings that appeared focused on injury to people, not buildings or objects

This report does not encompass all gun-related shootings. Because the risk to civilians in active shooter
incidents appears related to the apparent randomness of so many victims, a gun-related incident was excluded
if research established it was the result of:
■ Self-defense
■ Gang violence
■ Drug violence
■ Contained residential or domestic disputes
■ Controlled barricade/hostage situations
■ Crossfire as a byproduct of another ongoing criminal act
■ An action that appeared not to have put other people in peril (for example, the accidental discharge of a
firearm in a bar or a suicide in a public parking lot)

This methodology was first articulated in A Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the United States Between
2000 and 2013.5

It was applied to 2019 shooting incidents to ensure consistency.
I found this definition of active shooter.
The agreed-upon definition of active shooter by US government agencies (including the White House, US Department of Justice, FBI, US Department of Education, US Department of Homeland Security, and Federal Emergency Management Agency) is “an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area.” In most cases, active shooters use firearms and there is no pattern or method to their selection of victims.
https://www.alicetraining.com/active-shooter/