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The crazy leftists may not be as crazy as some of us think.

There is some sobering food for thought here.

Sad but true. It is already happening in some blue states where they "detain" someone, then search his home and find a legally purchased few guns and ammo. Then he is placed under arrest for a felony gun violation. He is then paraded all over the media as a home grown terrorist because he has a few guns. Or another scenario would be a Ruby Ridge all over again.

As far as I am concerned, R.Francis Opuke is a Hitler wanta-be and most of the ilks on the left are just as bad

This whole situation is not going to end well for anyone. Both sides will lose in the long run because eventually, the left will get enough people believing their nonsense that it will come to a head, one way or another.

I read that article this morning and thought.... Passing a confiscation law/rule would result in open rebellion.
Even if 0.5% of AR owners took to the streets, that's a big number.

I think this is a better read.

THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS OBSOLETE, SAYS CONGRESSMAN WHO WANTS TO NUKE OMAHA

RPBrown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:11 am Sad but true. It is already happening in some blue states where they "detain" someone, then search his home and find a legally purchased few guns and ammo. Then he is placed under arrest for a felony gun violation. He is then paraded all over the media as a home grown terrorist because he has a few guns. Or another scenario would be a Ruby Ridge all over again.

As far as I am concerned, R.Francis Opuke is a Hitler wanta-be and most of the ilks on the left are just as bad

This whole situation is not going to end well for anyone. Both sides will lose in the long run because eventually, the left will get enough people believing their nonsense that it will come to a head, one way or another.

Do the names, Hitler and Stalin, ring any bells? I'm kinda' glad Mrs. Oldgringo and I are septuagenarians.

Good luck and goodnight, y'all.

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:08 pm

RPBrown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:11 am Sad but true. It is already happening in some blue states where they "detain" someone, then search his home and find a legally purchased few guns and ammo. Then he is placed under arrest for a felony gun violation. He is then paraded all over the media as a home grown terrorist because he has a few guns. Or another scenario would be a Ruby Ridge all over again.

As far as I am concerned, R.Francis Opuke is a Hitler wanta-be and most of the ilks on the left are just as bad

This whole situation is not going to end well for anyone. Both sides will lose in the long run because eventually, the left will get enough people believing their nonsense that it will come to a head, one way or another.

Do the names, Hitler and Stalin, ring any bells? I'm kinda' glad Mrs. Oldgringo and I are septuagenarians.

Good luck and goodnight, y'all.

You said it backwards.

Yes, yes I did. Culpa, mea maxima culpa.

That is a good movie for those of us who are sufficiently mature to have any idea what it was about.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:31 pm

Oldgringo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:08 pm

RPBrown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:11 am Sad but true. It is already happening in some blue states where they "detain" someone, then search his home and find a legally purchased few guns and ammo. Then he is placed under arrest for a felony gun violation. He is then paraded all over the media as a home grown terrorist because he has a few guns. Or another scenario would be a Ruby Ridge all over again.

As far as I am concerned, R.Francis Opuke is a Hitler wanta-be and most of the ilks on the left are just as bad

This whole situation is not going to end well for anyone. Both sides will lose in the long run because eventually, the left will get enough people believing their nonsense that it will come to a head, one way or another.

Do the names, Hitler and Stalin, ring any bells? I'm kinda' glad Mrs. Oldgringo and I are septuagenarians.

Good luck and goodnight, y'all.

You said it backwards.

Another time of government abuse of power. Should be an educational aid

Capt Jean-Luc Picard sums up my thoughts on politicians who would support more gun control.

Excaliber wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:47 am The crazy leftists may not be as crazy as some of us think.

There is some sobering food for thought here.

Scott morefield is full of it, I give a week no more than two before things got hot!

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:25 pm I read that article this morning and thought.... Passing a confiscation law/rule would result in open rebellion.
Even if 0.5% of AR owners took to the streets, that's a big number.

I think this is a better read.

THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS OBSOLETE, SAYS CONGRESSMAN WHO WANTS TO NUKE OMAHA

That was a really good article.

However, it didn't address the central point in the first article - the viability of the boiling frog strategy of bans without confiscation likely followed by ammo bans to grind down the population without the door to door forcible confiscation flash point that would trigger massive active resistance.

Both articles contain much valid food for thought in our turbulent times.

Excaliber wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:21 am

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:25 pm I read that article this morning and thought.... Passing a confiscation law/rule would result in open rebellion.
Even if 0.5% of AR owners took to the streets, that's a big number.

I think this is a better read.

THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS OBSOLETE, SAYS CONGRESSMAN WHO WANTS TO NUKE OMAHA

That was a really good article.

However, it didn't address the central point in the first article - the viability of the boiling frog strategy of bans without confiscation likely followed by ammo bans to grind down the population without the door to door forcible confiscation flash point that would trigger massive active resistance.

Both articles contain much valid food for thought in our turbulent times.

This is exactly what it looks like the anti politicians are attempting, IMHO.

Excaliber wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:47 am The crazy leftists may not be as crazy as some of us think.

There is some sobering food for thought here.

No, not all the leftists are crazy. Many of them are just possessed by evil thoughts and beliefs. Others are just too ignorant to observe history and not understand that socialism won’t work this time either while the rest are too lazy to care as long as Uncle Sugar keeps handing out free stuff.

As some others have said, that's the way I see it going, too, if the ban somehow were to be passed. That is, few turned in voluntarily, even fewer forcibly confiscated.

So, thru non-enforcement, you might get to keep your "illegal" weapon. But you won't be able to use it: if you take it to the range, you get turned in and arrested; if you use it for self defense, you get arrested for using an "illegal" gun; accessories and replacement parts supplies dry up (after all, no one is supposed to have that "illegal" gun); ammo supplies dry up (again, no one has this "illegal" gun, right?).

Then we, the generation who grew up with this "illegal" gun, die off. Our kids and grandkids don't want these "illegal" guns that we leave them, because they are raising a young family themselves and don't want to take the chance of being caught possessing one of these "illegal" guns. So the gun-grabbers win in the long run simply by being patient - no muss, no fuss.

Here's a thought that just hit me. I'm no historian, so an honest question here. And I know it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, but the answer might be of some interest in relation to the current situation: how did it go when fully auto machine guns and short barrel rifles and shotguns were effectively banned with the GCA of 1934?

I have often wondered if part of the master gun control plan by the left is to allow the criminal use of guns to escalate so as to help manufacture a tipping point of crisis. Taking the "never let a crisis go to waste" to an all new level.

Why aren't liberal cities and states aggressively prosecuting crimes by prohibited possessors of guns? Why do liberals continually reject laws and enforcement of laws that would get these criminals off the streets? Examples like Chicago arrests of prohibited possessors (i.e. gang members) repeatedly not charged with higher felony of use and possession of guns; Houston shooting of officer this week was by guy released without paying bail for attempted car jacking; Democratic members of Congress rejecting laws that like Red Flags on gang members and illegal aliens, and on and on I could go. Numerous instances of leftist in the legal system not doing their job - many of the very ones clamoring to "do something".

I don't actually think most of these people want anyone to die in order to achieve their goal of gun control, but it sure makes me wonder when thousands of instances where something could actually be done by those on the left, and they don't.