Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

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Would you support this gun private purchase restriction

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I’m going to get flamed but I’m ready for it.

What if their was a law requiring private gun sellers to get three notarized letters from the buyer stating that they have known the person for five years, the person is of sound mind, the person to their knowledge has never been convicted of a crime, does not abuse drugs, and they would recommend that person for a gun purchase.

The gun seller would be required to keep the letters for five years.

Failure to get the letters or to keep them would subject the seller to civil liability should the person commit a crime with the gun sold to them.

Buyers would be responsible to immediately report a gun theft made through a private sale.

What if it was for buyers only under 26 years of age?

I would rather us write the new law than politicians.

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Read this...

https://www.constituteproject.org/const ... erica_1992
AMENDMENT II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
In certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law to pursue a natural justice.
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H e double hockey sticks NO!! I only do private transfers with relatives or LTC holders.
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jason812 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:31 pm Read this...

https://www.constituteproject.org/const ... erica_1992
AMENDMENT II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
What he said....
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philip964 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:23 pm I’m going to get flamed but I’m ready for it.

What if their was a law requiring private gun sellers to get three notarized letters from the buyer stating that they have known the person for five years, the person is of sound mind, the person to their knowledge has never been convicted of a crime, does not abuse drugs, and they would recommend that person for a gun purchase.

The gun seller would be required to keep the letters for five years.

Failure to get the letters or to keep them would subject the seller to civil liability should the person commit a crime with the gun sold to them.

Buyers would be responsible to immediately report a gun theft made through a private sale.

What if it was for buyers only under 26 years of age?

I would rather us write the new law than politicians.
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Or give the population access to NICS so we can do our own checks if we so choose to.
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If I were to sell a firearm, I would only sell to a LTC holder. Then I know the background check was completed and they passed. But I don’t sell my firearms. I will give them to family members, but I will not sell them.
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suthdj wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:43 pm Or give the population access to NICS so we can do our own checks if we so choose to.
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suthdj wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:43 pm Or give the population access to NICS so we can do our own checks if we so choose to.
This- sort of. I don't oppose a check, Lord knows I have been through them. I oppose the records kept for said check.

If I could run a nics check and not do or keep a record, I would, just for my own piece of mind.
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North Carolina used to have a sorta-similar process, administered via the local Sheriff.
Fill out a form, have a friend that's known you for some years (I forget exactly) vouch for you on the form, wait a week or so for background check, then get issued "purchase permits". You give one permit to the seller of a private sale for them to keep. The seller is covered, the buyer is vetted a bit more than a private sale would normally be vetted.

I believe they have done away with needing someone to vouch for you, otherwise, the process is still in place today.
http://www.wakegov.com/sheriff/division ... rmits.aspx
It is a misdemeanor to sell or otherwise dispose of a handgun without first obtaining a pistol permit from the recipient of the pistol.
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What if we got a double pinky swear for people we have known for more than 5 years. A genetic sample from all others. And a triple double serious promise not to use the gun for anything bad...

No.
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I assume that the reasons "friends" of the Constitution help enemies of the Constitution destroy the county is that by doing do is somehow going to delay or avert the destruction.
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Interesting.

Your suggestion is interesting, but I was more referring to my response to your question.

I had typed out a long well stated (IMHO) response and reasoning and my feelings about several related subjects. But after reflecting on what I had written, and considering today's climate, let me considerably edit my response to your question.

Here is my response: no.

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So my grandfather would need to get these letters to pass on his guns to me?
If I die this afternoon, and did not have the forethought to get these letters in advance of dying in a car accident..my firearms can not be transferred to my wife and sons?
If I stay as grumpy as I am today, it is likely I will not have the three required "friends" to testify and crate these letters....so my weapons must be what, destroyed? Turned in to the government to the government?


What if, what if we asked congress to write a law, that makes it illegal to take possession of a weapon if prohibited and then convicted those that take possession anyway? That should work...Oh wait we have that law but either they are not tried, or given light sentences.

What if, what if we asked congress to write a law, that makes it illegal to sell or give a weapon to a prohibited person.. Oh wait we have that law but either they are not tried, or given light sentences.

The government is not even going after prohibited persons that fail a NICS check from a FFL transfer for an actual prohibition felon, drug issue, mental issue, domestic violence, restraining order(vice an administrative issue, mis matched address, ect) If they wont go after, investigate, charge if appropriate (the two time felon, the domestic violence, ect) convicted person..the ones that self ID them selfs as having committed a criminal act (attempt to take possession of a weapon when they know they are prohibited
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