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If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:11 pm
by philip964
https://news.yahoo.com/taxpayer-funded- ... 12664.html

Biden has flipped and now favors Federal funding for abortions.

This author takes it another step and since guns are a right they should be federally funded. After all a $600 Glock might be a weeks pay for someone making the $15 minimum wage Bernie wants.

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:41 pm
by crazy2medic
Can you imagine the whining and complaining if the courts ordered the Fed Govt to purchase every American that wants one an AR15!

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:53 pm
by Jago668
crazy2medic wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:41 pm Can you imagine the whining and complaining if the courts ordered the Fed Govt to purchase every American that wants one an AR15!
Just pay for ammo for me would be good.

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:07 pm
by philip964
Jago668 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:53 pm
crazy2medic wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:41 pm Can you imagine the whining and complaining if the courts ordered the Fed Govt to purchase every American that wants one an AR15!
Just pay for ammo for me would be good.
Wow, great idea.

Range ammo part of regulated militia.

Part of defense department budget. Why no country would want to invade us by force. Could use up some of the ammo Obama stockpiled.

They want us to be marksmen, right?

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:24 pm
by montgomery
What am I missing? Abortions are not Constitutionally protected in the Bill of Rights. If abortions are legal, it is because they are legislated.

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:30 pm
by twomillenium
montgomery wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:24 pm What am I missing? Abortions are not Constitutionally protected in the Bill of Rights. If abortions are legal, it is because they are legislated.
I was thinking the same apple vs oranges thing myself.

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:50 pm
by Don T
montgomery wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:24 pm What am I missing? Abortions are not Constitutionally protected in the Bill of Rights. If abortions are legal, it is because they are legislated.
What you are missing is the 1973 case of Roe v. Wade, in which the Supreme Court held that abortion is a constitutionally protected right, even though neither a right to abortion nor a right to privacy is mentioned in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:59 pm
by montgomery
Don T wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:50 pm
montgomery wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:24 pm What am I missing? Abortions are not Constitutionally protected in the Bill of Rights. If abortions are legal, it is because they are legislated.
What you are missing is the 1973 case of Roe v. Wade, in which the Supreme Court held that abortion is a constitutionally protected right, even though neither a right to abortion nor a right to privacy is mentioned in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
Probably semantics, but there is a difference between a court opinion that can be challenged and decided based on political ideology and a right that is spelled out in the Bill of Rights. The difference is implicit vs implied opinion. Roe v Wade is case law - and that falls into the legislated category of my original post.

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:52 am
by ELB
Which is duly pointed out in the linked article. The thrust of the article is that if the Dems would choke on providing funding for the enumerated right to bear arms, how much more ludicrous is it that they want to fund a “right” found nowhere in the body nor amendments of the Constitution, but only in the warped minds of a long superseded SCOTUS.

Re: If guns are a right, then they should be Federally funded.

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:18 am
by bblhd672
No “government” regardless of its founding documents should be requiring tax paying citizens to fund the murder of other’s children.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams

It could be argued that the Democratic platform is incompatible with the Constitution’s intended moral and religious people.