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Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:58 pm
by Tex1961

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:50 pm
by The Annoyed Man
How did this bill even get past Bonnen's Democrat committee gatekeepers for a floor vote?

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:12 pm
by bbhack
The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 9:50 pm How did this bill even get past Bonnen's Democrat committee gatekeepers for a floor vote?
For show? For cover?

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:12 am
by canvasbck
I had wondered what bone they would throw us, now I know.

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:25 am
by RoyGBiv
It would be nice to be able to drive with an easy-access gun under the steering wheel or between the seats, without violating the law.

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:08 am
by RPBrown
RoyGBiv wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 7:25 am It would be nice to be able to drive with an easy-access gun under the steering wheel or between the seats, without violating the law.
:iagree:

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:09 am
by CoffeeNut
RoyGBiv wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 7:25 am It would be nice to be able to drive with an easy-access gun under the steering wheel or between the seats, without violating the law.
Agreed. I used to put my hat over mine but the sun had different ideas almost every time I did that.

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:15 am
by apostate
bbhack wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 10:12 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 9:50 pm How did this bill even get past Bonnen's Democrat committee gatekeepers for a floor vote?
For show? For cover?
:iagree:

It's already May and it's unlikely to make it through the Senate in the few weeks left, which is their plan. This is one way anti RKBA legislators in Texas have traditionally tricked organizations into giving them an A grade on gun rights. I'm a Life Member of the NRA but I can't trust their grades when cheating is so rampant, and rewarded.

"We ran out of time" really means "we didn't want it to pass and we think you're stupid enough to believe our lies. Again.".

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:18 am
by Mob89
RoyGBiv wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 7:25 am It would be nice to be able to drive with an easy-access gun under the steering wheel or between the seats, without violating the law.
:iagree:

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:44 am
by flechero
The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 9:50 pm How did this bill even get past Bonnen's Democrat committee gatekeepers for a floor vote?
It was attached to a plastic drinking straw bill

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:45 am
by The Annoyed Man
flechero wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 8:44 am
The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 9:50 pm How did this bill even get past Bonnen's Democrat committee gatekeepers for a floor vote?
It was attached to a plastic drinking straw bill
"rlol" "rlol" "rlol"

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:30 am
by bblhd672
apostate wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 8:15 am It's already May and it's unlikely to make it through the Senate in the few weeks left, which is their plan. This is one way anti RKBA legislators in Texas have traditionally tricked organizations into giving them an A grade on gun rights. I'm a Life Member of the NRA but I can't trust their grades when cheating is so rampant, and rewarded.

"We ran out of time" really means "we didn't want it to pass and we think you're stupid enough to believe our lies. Again.".
:iagree:
Ratings need to be changed to reflect not just bills voted on but bills voted for AND those passed into law. This might encourage those voting for a bill to lobby their fellow senators/representatives to pass the bill as well.

This would be a great bill to pass into law.

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:43 am
by Lena
Looking for opinions here:
I got into a discussion with a capt in our agency on this well the concealed part, a zip up pistol case/rug in a vehicle's seat in open view, he said illegal as showing a handgun present I asked him to open it nope no G32 but a Butterfinger bar, no firearm, he was not impressed, well illegal he did say no then yet it was prior...… We returned to our briefing I still had zipper case, just got a strange look and not discussed anymore at all.

So was a zipped up case illegal to you???????

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:52 am
by Jusme
Lena wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 9:43 am Looking for opinions here:
I got into a discussion with a capt in our agency on this well the concealed part, a zip up pistol case/rug in a vehicle's seat in open view, he said illegal as showing a handgun present I asked him to open it nope no G32 but a Butterfinger bar, no firearm, he was not impressed, well illegal he did say no then yet it was prior...… We returned to our briefing I still had zipper case, just got a strange look and not discussed anymore at all.

So was a zipped up case illegal to you???????
Nope!
Concealed is concealed, if a white hanky covers it, then it's concealed. Just like a hard plastic case with Smith and Wesson written on it. Assuming, based on experience, does not change the law. Guns can be carried in a multitude of containers, and a multitude of other things can be carried in containers designed for guns. Besides, LEO can ask if there are any guns in the vehicle, so concealed or not, they would still be made aware,( at least by those who are honest)

Re: Texas House backs open display of handguns in cars

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:54 am
by Flightmare
Lena wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 9:43 am Looking for opinions here:
I got into a discussion with a capt in our agency on this well the concealed part, a zip up pistol case/rug in a vehicle's seat in open view, he said illegal as showing a handgun present I asked him to open it nope no G32 but a Butterfinger bar, no firearm, he was not impressed, well illegal he did say no then yet it was prior...… We returned to our briefing I still had zipper case, just got a strange look and not discussed anymore at all.

So was a zipped up case illegal to you???????
Would he consider a range bag to be not-concealed as well?