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Bill O’Riley was on the radio today. I think he was on Glen Beck but not sure.

Asked about Trump’s with a pen banning bump stocks, with Glen Beck giving him lead in for perfect opportunity to say something along the lines of Trump is alienating part of his base with this move, said something along the lines of -

whatever the government feels
it takes to keep us safe.

I was really surprised. It sounded like he may have lived in New York his whole life and had never held a real gun.

He may have followed it up with, but I support the 2nd Amendment. Then added but people don’t need hand grenades in their garage.

Thought you all would want to know.

Please correct me if you heard it and got a different impression.

Maybe I missed something but I never got the impression he was.

O'Riley never was much of a 2A guy. He always struck me as more to the left than the right.

NY conservative?

Not new news. I remember years ago him saying something to the effect the average American doesn't need an AR15. I wrote him an email detailing how they are used for self/home defense some where in America on a daily basis. Also mentioned that I dont live in fancy New York with armed security and a secure building to live in and that the closest town is 20 minutes away and no telling where the closest sheriff deputy is at. I might have also mentioned how it's the #1 weapon of choice for farmers battling feral hogs. Of course because he is holier than thou, I never got a response. He's not a conservative or constitutionalist, he's just another big city guy that knows how to talk and think he's smarter than everybody else.

Bill alright on most things but he way off base on the 2nd amendment!

I liked O'Reilly for a while until I really started to pay attention to what he was saying. He's a moderate NE Republican, which translates into another form of a Limousine Liberal. Anti-gun, big government, superior attitude.

I was long since off his bandwagon before his fall. No loss. Similar to Beck in some ways, had great opportunities to stand up for something and then blew it.

Surprisingly, Jeanine Pirro "Judge Jeanine" is not a big 2A supporter, at least in the same vein that moast of us are.

Jeff B.

C-dub wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:18 pm O'Riley never was much of a 2A guy. He always struck me as more to the left than the right.

NY conservative?

New York values....?

Saying New York values, instead of New York City values, is like characterizing Texas values as Austin values. There are a lot of conservatives in New York, just not in the city. City folk in every state tend to be liberal, including Texas.

BO is a media elite.. He doesn't give a rat's behind about dirt people.

His credibility with me is zero. The man is a fake and the real person is an awful person with the history to prove it.

G26ster wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:03 am Saying New York values, instead of New York City values, is like characterizing Texas values as Austin values. There are a lot of conservatives in New York, just not in the city. City folk in every state tend to be liberal, including Texas.

NY is a very large state, just like texas many people live in the country or small towns.

G26ster wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:03 am Saying New York values, instead of New York City values, is like characterizing Texas values as Austin values. There are a lot of conservatives in New York, just not in the city. City folk in every state tend to be liberal, including Texas.

Then why can't a Republican win statewide office since Alfonse D'Amato was a Senator? I lived near Albany in the '80's. It was going to take me six months to get permit just to OWN A PISTOL. They have a 17-9 Dem majority in Congressmen.

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:14 pm

G26ster wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:03 am Saying New York values, instead of New York City values, is like characterizing Texas values as Austin values. There are a lot of conservatives in New York, just not in the city. City folk in every state tend to be liberal, including Texas.

Then why can't a Republican win statewide office since Alfonse D'Amato was a Senator? I lived near Albany in the '80's. It was going to take me six months to get permit just to OWN A PISTOL. They have a 17-9 Dem majority in Congressmen.

D'Amato was in office til '99. Republican gov. Pataki had two terms 1995-2001, and 2001-2007 so they can win statewide office. When you have 8 million people in a liberal city, it's hard for conservatives to compete. BTW, Albany is city just like Austin. Texas cities, Austin, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio are all liberal. We are headed in the same direction here in Texas. Look at the Cruz election this time around. Also, NY outside of NYC is losing population, and NYC is gaining populaion, where half the state's residents live.

If he was any less of a gun supporter, his middle initial would be H.

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:14 pm

G26ster wrote: ↑Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:03 am Saying New York values, instead of New York City values, is like characterizing Texas values as Austin values. There are a lot of conservatives in New York, just not in the city. City folk in every state tend to be liberal, including Texas.

Then why can't a Republican win statewide office since Alfonse D'Amato was a Senator? I lived near Albany in the '80's. It was going to take me six months to get permit just to OWN A PISTOL. They have a 17-9 Dem majority in Congressmen.

I also lived in Upstate NY in the early 80's, but not that far upstate. Down in Orange County.

However, when 40%+ of the state's population is in NYC it is tough. Kinda like the issue IL has with chicago only far worse because chicago's population is only around 20-25% of IL's total population.