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Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:36 pm
by bblhd672

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:11 pm
by rp_photo
Seems like a great way to convince gun owners with mental illness to not seek treatment.

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:40 am
by SQLGeek
A good, if not unsettling, read. The surveillance state is well entrenched and we welcomed it in under the guise of security.

I had not heard of the Maryland police misconduct issue before and that alone is alarming. Such a blatant disregard for the 4th Amendment should have been heavily condemned by all.

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:56 am
by Jeff B.
...The incident gained national attention. Mr. Filippidis went on multiple radio programs and described in detail how scared and outraged he and his family were. He wondered: How did the police know he was licensed for concealed carry, and what right did they have to search through his personal items on the side of the busy interstate filled with holiday travelers on that 10-degree day?

“My wife’s hysterical, shaking and crying,” Mr. Filippidis recalled in an interview with The Washington Times. “I don’t have a criminal record. I own a business. I’m a family man, and I tried to explain that to [the officer]. But he had a bad attitude, didn’t want to hear my story. He just wanted to find that gun and take me away from my family. That was his goal, but he couldn’t do it, because I didn’t have a gun, like I told him.”

Mr. Filippidis‘ case earned the support of Second Amendment advocates and subsequent apologies from the MDTA. But an internal police review concluded his stop and search were lawful and did not violate police protocols...
It's pretty clear that in Maryland, individual rights do not exist, not as we would consider them in the free states. If there were not an actual "deep state", IMO, the Federal Government would be actively challenging the West Coast and North East States over their egregious violations of their citizens rights. But, the "Deep State" is very interested in spreading these methods and views throughout the nation, so, no challenges.

Jeff B.

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:29 am
by crazy2medic
Government is not reason, it is not eloquence,—it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant, and a fearful master
Thank the Lord above that in the great state of Texas we do not have to fear this type of police behavior!

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:55 pm
by Papa_Tiger
crazy2medic wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:29 am Government is not reason, it is not eloquence,—it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant, and a fearful master
Thank the Lord above that in the great state of Texas we do not have to fear this type of police behavior!
Yet...

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:57 pm
by BBYC
To paraphrase a dead white guy, "Gun owners shouldn't fear the Deep State; The Deep State should fear gun owners."

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:30 pm
by bblhd672
crazy2medic wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:29 am Government is not reason, it is not eloquence,—it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant, and a fearful master
Thank the Lord above that in the great state of Texas we do not have to fear this type of police behavior!
Are you sure? There seems to have been a few incidents of police in Texas acting like the guys in Maryland.

Re: Gun Owners Should Fear the Deep State

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:58 pm
by Deltaboy
We had some bad ones in Texas.