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Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:30 am
by parabelum
"Federal agents have persuaded police officers to scan license plates to gather information about gun-show customers, government emails show, raising questions about how officials monitor constitutionally protected activity."
http://www.wsj.com/articles/gun-show-cu ... 1475451302
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:42 am
by Ed4032
ACLU, our best buddies, say that this has been going on since 2009.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-future/d ... ils-reveal
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:38 am
by TexasTornado
Just saw this article on Facebook and was bringing it over, glad you already have it up. Guess we'll just have to go riding our horses to gun shows!
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:40 am
by Jusme
TexasTornado wrote:Just saw this article on Facebook and was bringing it over, glad you already have it up. Guess we'll just have to go riding our horses to gun shows!
Or take a taxi!
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:44 am
by TexasTornado
Jusme wrote:TexasTornado wrote:Just saw this article on Facebook and was bringing it over, glad you already have it up. Guess we'll just have to go riding our horses to gun shows!
Or take a taxi!
What fun is that? Geeez!
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:45 am
by Jusme
TexasTornado wrote:Jusme wrote:TexasTornado wrote:Just saw this article on Facebook and was bringing it over, glad you already have it up. Guess we'll just have to go riding our horses to gun shows!
Or take a taxi!
What fun is that? Geeez!
Probably not as much fun, but having to ride horseback 30 miles to the nearest gun show, would kinda put me out of the buying mood by the time I got there, just sayin...
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:03 am
by TexasTornado
Jusme wrote:TexasTornado wrote:Jusme wrote:TexasTornado wrote:Just saw this article on Facebook and was bringing it over, glad you already have it up. Guess we'll just have to go riding our horses to gun shows!
Or take a taxi!
What fun is that? Geeez!
Probably not as much fun, but having to ride horseback 30 miles to the nearest gun show, would kinda put me out of the buying mood by the time I got there, just sayin...
Way to be all practical and destroy my argument for needing a horse...
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:33 am
by NotRPB
I have a bike rack on the car, I could park 1/2 block away and bicycle to the show.
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:28 am
by oohrah
Well, if you drive on a public street, that's a privilege, not a right. No expectation of privacy.
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:35 am
by parabelum
I wonder if Feds are urging local PD to track/scan plates of the agitators from BLM etc. when they "protest" "police brutality ".
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:39 am
by TexasTornado
parabelum wrote:I wonder if Feds are urging local PD to track/scan plates of the agitators from BLM etc. when they "protest" "police brutality ".
Oh no, racial profiling is bad. We couldn't possibly have that.
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:46 am
by ScottDLS
oohrah wrote:Well, if you drive on a public street, that's a privilege, not a right. No expectation of privacy.
Is it a privilege? And how does that affect your expectation of privacy? If you walk down the street is that a privilege or a right? Do you have any expectation of privacy walking vs. driving? Carrying a handgun is a privilege in Texas, correct? Yet it's guaranteed in the Constitution (or is it?). Who grants you privileges and are they subject to being taken away for any reason?
Do we have a right to be secure in our papers, persons,... and effects...from unreasonable search and seizure when driving...or only in our homes?
I think what it boils down to is that copying (automatically) down license numbers is not an unreasonable search, though that doesn't mean that the Feds should do it.
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:02 am
by Soccerdad1995
oohrah wrote:Well, if you drive on a public street, that's a privilege, not a right. No expectation of privacy.
Actually it's something I have paid for, so more like a purchased service than a true privilege.
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:01 pm
by bblhd672
parabelum wrote:"Federal agents have persuaded police officers to scan license plates to gather information about gun-show customers, government emails show, raising questions about how officials monitor constitutionally protected activity."
http://www.wsj.com/articles/gun-show-cu ... 1475451302
Not surprised...the government is very anti-Constitution, anti-freedom these days.
Well, anti-freedom unless you want to illegally enter the country then they are very much for freedom.
Re: Federal agents enlisted local police to scan car plates at gun shows
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:11 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Jusme wrote:TexasTornado wrote:Jusme wrote:TexasTornado wrote:Just saw this article on Facebook and was bringing it over, glad you already have it up. Guess we'll just have to go riding our horses to gun shows!
Or take a taxi!
What fun is that? Geeez!
Probably not as much fun, but having to ride horseback 30 miles to the nearest gun show, would kinda put me out of the buying mood by the time I got there, just sayin...
Don't tell your wife........she'll just take away your car keys.
