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Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:20 pm**

Seemed so obvious to me. It's a shame some government entities and officials want to ignore or circumvent the law.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:21 pm**

Thanks for the posting. AG Paxton and his staff have been busy little beavers!

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:29 pm**

And Nueces county just went ahead and posted its county buildings including the courthouse.

http://www.kristv.com/story/30801208/nu ... courthouse

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:34 pm**

Seems pretty straight forward, and a clear validation of what everyone here has long since concluded. It will be interesting to see if at some point the AG does clarify exactly what an office "essential" to the court is.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:35 pm**

timtheteacher wrote:also in the opinion....

"Thus,
any oral notice given by a governmental entity regarding the prohibition of handguns, if given
where handguns are lawful, can serve as an improper exclusion in violation in section 411.209.
And the sign about which you inquire that does not use the statutory language but states that the
Center is a "Weapons Free Zone," if placed in an area where handguns are allowed, would
similarly invoke the enforcement mechanism of section 411.209. "

"Conversely,
a licensee who refuses to relinquish any concealed handgun or refuses to exit the building after
being· given notice by a governmental entity does not commit an offense if the building is not one
from which sections 46.03 and 46.035 prohibit concealed handguns. See id § 30.06(e)."

Yes, thought that was a nice bit as well

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:49 pm**

roadkill wrote:And Nueces county just went ahead and posted its county buildings including the courthouse.

http://www.kristv.com/story/30801208/nu ... courthouse

I hope they get hammered with the penalties.

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:58 pm**

Glockster wrote:
timtheteacher wrote:also in the opinion....

"Thus,
any oral notice given by a governmental entity regarding the prohibition of handguns, if given
where handguns are lawful, can serve as an improper exclusion in violation in section 411.209.
And the sign about which you inquire that does not use the statutory language but states that the
Center is a "Weapons Free Zone," if placed in an area where handguns are allowed, would
similarly invoke the enforcement mechanism of section 411.209. "

"Conversely,
a licensee who refuses to relinquish any concealed handgun or refuses to exit the building after
being· given notice by a governmental entity does not commit an offense if the building is not one
from which sections 46.03 and 46.035 prohibit concealed handguns. See id § 30.06(e)."
Yes, thought that was a nice bit as well

It would seem to me that the AG is going to apply 411.209 to 30.07 signs or similar language as well...

Posted: **Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:31 pm**

mojo84 wrote:
roadkill wrote:And Nueces county just went ahead and posted its county buildings including the courthouse.

http://www.kristv.com/story/30801208/nu ... courthouse

I hope they get hammered with the penalties.

Me too, we have several discussions going locally.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:57 pm**

KRISTV.com: One day later, Nueces Co. to reverse gun ban at courthouse
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/ag ... d-p/nppnx/

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:56 pm**

timtheteacher wrote:It will be interesting to see how Wes Mau is going to handle this. He was the originator of the request for opinion based on what they do in Hays County.

I'm a little new to the CHL game (November 2015), But I live in Hays county, what exactly is going on there?

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:57 pm**

timtheteacher wrote:The request: https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/op ... 0051KP.pdf

and the answer: https://texasattorneygeneral.gov/opinio ... kp0049.pdf

thanks, somehow I never got wind of this

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