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Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:49 am
by philip964
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/ ... c-unaware/

Very thoughtful examination of gun violence and its decline since 1993 and the public's lack of knowledge on the subject other than thinking its worse.

Interesting fact: 65 percent of gun deaths are of one race that comprises only 13 percent of the population.

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:17 am
by allisji
Some very good information is contained in that link. It would be nice to see the data updated the information through 2014, but I'm sure that the trend has not changed too much since 2011.

More so than the demographics of the victims, I'd be interested to the percentage of perpetrators who would not have passed a federal background check to purchase a firearm from a dealer.

In my opinion highlighting the racial demographics does nothing to advance anyone's particular argument. Personally I feel that location has as much to do with it as race, and what it leads to is a chicken vs. the egg argument about poverty, crime, and race.

The goal should be to indicate that restrictions being placed to keep guns out of the hands of the criminally or mentally dangerous specifically coupled with a steady increase in the population of legally licensed concealed handgun holders is resulting in a decrease of violent crime involving the use of guns.

Also interesting that the assault weapons ban implementation or expiration doesn't seem to have made a noticeable impact on the trends.

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:23 am
by AJSully421
You are reading it wrong...

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Our liberal friends will tell you that the drop in crime starting in 1994 was due to the AWB, and nothing you say will convince them otherwise. You can bring up Conceal Carry laws exploding in nearly every state, you can cite demographics as the last of the baby boomers aged out of "youth limited offender" category with very few Gen X aging in to that category... but it will all be due to the AWB in their mind.

That and facts are racist.

See my sig line for some insight about our liberal friends.

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:29 am
by Pariah3j
Very Interesting read - I knew in most cities in the US that crime rates were down, but I did not realize they had come down that much since the 1980/90's

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:15 pm
by gthaustex
AJSully421 wrote:You are reading it wrong...

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Our liberal friends will tell you that the drop in crime starting in 1994 was due to the AWB, and nothing you say will convince them otherwise. You can bring up Conceal Carry laws exploding in nearly every state, you can cite demographics as the last of the baby boomers aged out of "youth limited offender" category with very few Gen X aging in to that category... but it will all be due to the AWB in their mind.

That and facts are racist.

See my sig line for some insight about our liberal friends.
Assuming they argue the above case, one should ask them why the rate didn't skyrocket once the AWB expired....

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:45 pm
by J.R.@A&M
Thanks for posting this -- really interesting.

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:38 pm
by puma guy
philip964 wrote:http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/ ... c-unaware/

Very thoughtful examination of gun violence and its decline since 1993 and the public's lack of knowledge on the subject other than thinking its worse.

Interesting fact: 65 percent of gun deaths are of one race that comprises only 13 percent of the population.
Astounding isn't it that the public, much less the media is so ill informed? :roll: (Couldn't find a sarcastic smiley)

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:45 pm
by Beiruty
Yeah, you tell them more guns less crime. None of the liberals would believe you. I say see facts not fictions :rules: :rules: :rules:
One of their response is "Oh, more advancements in Security Camera, more Advancements in Alarm Systems, cell phones are everywhere, all are the real factor in less crime".

I say, I do not carry an Alarm system over my head nor a Security Camera, I do carry a gun. :smilelol5: :smilelol5:

Re: Gun homicide rate down 49% since 1993, public unaware of reduction

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:03 pm
by philip964
I've noticed no one is crediting all the guns that were sold or the start of the popularity of CHL.