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Presidential Tantrums Won't End Gun Violence

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:06 pm
by VMI77
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 28312.html

Apparently there is still at least one sane liberal left in the US.
The president's frustration, after delivering a sad series of similar speeches, is understandable. But his argument is still indefensible.

Even if you support "commonsense gun legislation" (as I do), there was nothing in Obama's speech that effectively argued for it. No policy proposals or serious justifications. No one listening to the speech would be persuaded to take a position he or she did not already hold. Obama was saying, in essence, that it is obvious what we should do about mass gun violence, that evil people are blocking it, and that they have innocent blood on their hands.
But it matters when the president of the United States decides that democratic persuasion is a fool's game. It encourages the kind of will-to-power politics we see on the left and right. In this view, opponents are evil -- entirely beyond the normal instruments of reason and good faith. So the only option is the collection and exercise of power.

Re: Presidential Tantrums Won't End Gun Violence

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:27 pm
by philip964
I vote this as the best headline on the forum this year.

Re: Presidential Tantrums Won't End Gun Violence

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:33 pm
by gthaustex
Good article.

Re: Presidential Tantrums Won't End Gun Violence

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:25 pm
by Bitter Clinger
The Australia Gun Control Fallacy

"Australia does not have a bill of rights, and that, ultimately, is the reason it was able to confiscate guns. Australians have no constitutional right to bear arms, so seizing their weapons did not violate their constitutional rights. Gun confiscation in the United States would require violating not only the Second Amendment, but the fourth and fifth as well, and possibly even the first. Progressives generally have no compunction about breaching the Second Amendment, but one wonders how many others they would be eager to violate in their quest to nullify the second. Civil war and a tattered Constitution: such are the consequences"

http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/25/the ... l-fallacy/

Re: Presidential Tantrums Won't End Gun Violence

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:42 pm
by rotor
Is he a liberal? A republican liberal?

Re: Presidential Tantrums Won't End Gun Violence

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:08 pm
by Countryside
Does it bother anyone else that the ones who think there needs to be stronger gun laws are those who live 24/7 protected by their own personal armies?