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Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:10 am
by TexasVet
Looks likethey had a Chec connection. A load of vz58s and skorpions

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:37 pm
by rbwhatever1
Not a lot of ammo for that many firearms. I wonder if they'll find out where these guns were going to end up.

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:46 pm
by K.Mooneyham
rbwhatever1 wrote:Not a lot of ammo for that many firearms. I wonder if they'll find out where these guns were going to end up.
In a nation that is pretty much disarmed, it doesn't take a lot of ammo to pull off a crime. Also, the ammo with the haul might have been "starter" ammo, and the criminals were expected to get whatever else they needed from another source.

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:21 pm
by TexasVet
AndyC wrote:And shipped from France, so they probably have a French Connection, too (some of you oldsters might get that) ;-)
Yes.. My comment was a twist on that title..

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:15 pm
by VMI77
AndyC wrote:Something from a French website - I can read basic French, but I used Google translate (for what it's worth) to give those of you who can't some idea of the scale of the issue:
3 - 7,000,000 arms circulate illegally in France

The weapons of war, which used Kalashnikov Wednesday for killing a man 25 years in Marseille, are trivialized if in a few years in France, both small arming thugs that organized crime, in particular because of their low cost.

15,000 weapons of Kalashnikov type of war

For many years, specialists and police officials are sounding the alarm, citing "an anarchic proliferation" of weapons of war, especially in cities, insisting for months on their use increasingly common.

According to experts, nearly 15,000 weapons of Kalashnikov type of war circulate in the French suburbs, against 3-7 million weapons that find themselves illegally in France. But there are no official statistics on the subject. These weapons can be "pooled" to a neighborhood, for different teams, for acts ranging from the attack on van eg simple settlement personal account.

"Before, a hoodlum used a shotgun to resolve his personal problems. There, as it can have a Kalashnikov 'on hand, well he uses it because it is denied in night clubs, and that's a lot more damage, "said a specialist, for whom the mapping of war weapons wife that of drug trafficking.

From 500 to 2,000 euros weapon (1 Euro equals = 1.11 US Dollar )

The success of these particular weapons held at cost. For example, the price of a Kalashnikov on the black market, is between "500 euros for a poor quality weapons" and "1,000 to 2,000 euros" for a weapon coming the former Yugoslavia, according to a specialist. "It's become so easy to procure the thugs easily use," said a police source.

A source close to French intelligence, the French market is supplied by "petty crime - maximum ten weapons each time - which still come mainly from the former Yugoslavia, hidden in trucks or buses via Italy. "
Continued at the original link here: http://www.rtl.fr/actu/3-a-7-millions-d ... 7752030272
Well, when guns are illegal, if you're going to have an illegal gun, why not go for full auto? Making guns illegal is an incentive to get the best weaponry you can if you're going to break the law. The UK just put an 88 year old man in prison for having a shotgun in his car. He was afraid of some thugs that had been threatening him and his wife. They didn't even look for the thugs. So this guy might as well have had a full auto AK instead of a shotgun.

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:40 am
by VoiceofReason
Well, when guns are illegal, if you're going to have an illegal gun, why not go for full auto? Making guns illegal is an incentive to get the best weaponry you can if you're going to break the law.
The UK just put an 88 year old man in prison for having a shotgun in his car. He was afraid of some thugs that had been threatening him and his wife. They didn't even look for the thugs. So this guy might as well have had a full auto AK instead of a shotgun.
If it were me, it would be much safer for them to go after the thugs.

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:41 am
by VoiceofReason
Well, when guns are illegal, if you're going to have an illegal gun, why not go for full auto? Making guns illegal is an incentive to get the best weaponry you can if you're going to break the law.
The UK just put an 88 year old man in prison for having a shotgun in his car. He was afraid of some thugs that had been threatening him and his wife. They didn't even look for the thugs. So this guy might as well have had a full auto AK instead of a shotgun.
If it were me, it would be much safer for them to go after the thugs.

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:42 am
by VoiceofReason
Well, when guns are illegal, if you're going to have an illegal gun, why not go for full auto? Making guns illegal is an incentive to get the best weaponry you can if you're going to break the law.
The UK just put an 88 year old man in prison for having a shotgun in his car. He was afraid of some thugs that had been threatening him and his wife. They didn't even look for the thugs. So this guy might as well have had a full auto AK instead of a shotgun.
If it were me, it would be much safer for them to go after the thugs.

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:47 am
by VoiceofReason
I don't know what happened here. It acted like the message would not post then when I gave up and went back to the thread, it had posted three times.

Re: UK's 'biggest weapons haul'

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:47 am
by VoiceofReason
I don't know what happened here. It acted like the message would not post then when I gave up and went back to the thread, it had posted three times.