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Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social Secur
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:58 pm
by Rex B
"Seeking tighter controls over firearm purchases, the Obama administration is pushing to ban Social Security beneficiaries from owning guns if they lack the mental capacity to manage their own affairs"
Guess who gets to decide of one is able to manage one's affairs?
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Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:20 pm
by joe817
Insanity! Pure insanity! Words cannot express my disgust with the current incumbent. I pray Congress squashes that idea with prejudice.
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:43 pm
by Oldgringo
joe817 wrote:Insanity! Pure insanity! Words cannot express my disgust with the current incumbent. I pray Congress squashes that idea with prejudice.
I agree totally; however, please be reminded he did not elect himself. His supporters, believers and minions walk among us and they are many.
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:55 pm
by Rex B
You know, Oklahoma had that guy in one of their prisons last week,
But then they LET him OUT!

Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:53 pm
by Rex B
Saw this on another forum:
LA Times is reporting that the Obama Administration has taken executive action to expand NICS denials to Social Security recipients who have had a fiduciary appointed to receive their benefits. In essence, the same policies that the VA has been using to add people to NICS will now be applied to everyone on Social Security.
Started in March, just announced Friday
This will effectively add 4.2 million people to NICS.
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:03 am
by carlson1
Ignorance here, but how is an executive order overturned of can it be overturned?
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:20 am
by jmra
carlson1 wrote:Ignorance here, but how is an executive order overturned of can it be overturned?
"The one sure way of getting rid of an executive order is in the White House. If an administration doesn't like an order from a previous president, it can legally reverse it on its own."
http://www.cnbc.com/2014/01/28/executiv ... -work.html
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:24 am
by rbwhatever1
I cant remember these incidents where Social Security recipients, who worked all their lives for retirement, are roaming the streets shooting up stuff killing people and knocking off stores. Maybe the State is getting ready for some Greece like austerity measures...
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:22 am
by Rex B
I wonder how often a senior citizen whose mental acuity has deteriorated to the point where they can't manage their own daily affairs .... goes out shopping for firearms. I mean, how often will this be an issue?
This is just part of a larger effort to expand the use of all available data to effect societal change;
http://nypost.com/2015/07/18/obama-has- ... -database/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:02 am
by jmra
Rex B wrote:I wonder how often a senior citizen whose mental acuity has deteriorated to the point where they can't manage their own daily affairs .... goes out shopping for firearms. I mean, how often will this be an issue?
I was wondering the same thing. Now if this were being used as a means to confiscate weapons that is a different conversation.
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:22 am
by RetNavy
was planning on going to the gun show next weekend, but since i am on both Social Security Disability and VA disability might have to change plans.... might even have to start watching for those black Suburbans
ETA: having a MRI done through the VA for asymmetrical hearing loss in the left ear..... was kidding with audiology doctor that the only thing they would see is a big empty hole...... guess i shouldnt make comments like that any more

Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:25 am
by The Annoyed Man
This president, and his party, are a greater existential threat to liberty and the constitutional rule of law than any threat presented by ISIS.
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:29 am
by Oldgringo
The Annoyed Man wrote:This president, and his party, are a greater existential threat to liberty and the constitutional rule of law than any threat presented by ISIS.

Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:44 am
by jmra
RetNavy wrote:was planning on going to the gun show next weekend, but since i am on both Social Security Disability and VA disability might have to change plans.... might even have to start watching for those black Suburbans
ETA: having a MRI done through the VA for asymmetrical hearing loss in the left ear..... was kidding with audiology doctor that the only thing they would see is a big empty hole...... guess i shouldnt make comments like that any more

If you have a CHL you are exempt from NICS check. It also sounds like it would only be an issue if you were not capable of managing your own finances.
Re: Obama pushes to extend gun background checks to Social S
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:46 am
by The Annoyed Man
jmra wrote:RetNavy wrote:was planning on going to the gun show next weekend, but since i am on both Social Security Disability and VA disability might have to change plans.... might even have to start watching for those black Suburbans
ETA: having a MRI done through the VA for asymmetrical hearing loss in the left ear..... was kidding with audiology doctor that the only thing they would see is a big empty hole...... guess i shouldnt make comments like that any more

If you have a CHL you are exempt from NICS check.
Are you sure? I thought they still call it in, but you don't have to wait for it.