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Well, that all depends on what the definition of IS IS. Are they a bunch of terrorists or are they just a bunch of community organizers?

C-dub wrote:Well, that all depends on what the definition of IS IS. Are they a bunch of terrorists or are they just a bunch of community organizers?

Based on what I have seen on the news ISIS is the real deal.

The current administration is useless.

Anygunanywhere

I was being sarcastic and had a little play on words, a la Bill Clinton. For quite a while, at least publicly, BHO didn't take IDIS seriously and still doesn't seem to want to most of the time.

anygunanywhere wrote:

C-dub wrote:Well, that all depends on what the definition of IS IS. Are they a bunch of terrorists or are they just a bunch of community organizers?

Based on what I have seen on the news ISIS is the real deal.

The current administration is useless.

Anygunanywhere

Things could get dicey very quickly. Can't count on the government - better be prepared to take care of your own.

Current Administration has a messed up foreign policy. Why Libya was attacked but not Syria? Let us forget about Bashar for second why is it so tough to unleash hellfire campaign and tomahawk shock and awe on ISIS?

Beiruty wrote:Current Administration has a messed up foreign policy. Why Libya was attacked but not Syria? Let us forget about Bashar for second why is it so tough to unleash hellfire campaign and tomahawk shock and awe on ISIS?

Maybe he has kin in the mix??

Anygunanywhere

anygunanywhere wrote:

Beiruty wrote:Current Administration has a messed up foreign policy. Why Libya was attacked but not Syria? Let us forget about Bashar for second why is it so tough to unleash hellfire campaign and tomahawk shock and awe on ISIS?

Maybe he has kin in the mix??

Anygunanywhere

I do not think so. ISIS are the #1 enemy of Muslims and Islam. They are extreme Wahabists.

Beiruty wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

Beiruty wrote:Current Administration has a messed up foreign policy. Why Libya was attacked but not Syria? Let us forget about Bashar for second why is it so tough to unleash hellfire campaign and tomahawk shock and awe on ISIS?

Maybe he has kin in the mix??

Anygunanywhere

I do not think so. ISIS are the #1 enemy of Muslims and Islam. They are extreme Wahabists.

I am certain you could elaborate but I will not ask. I did a bit of reading and suffice it to say I do not understand Islam and the different sects. Most of all I do not now and never have understood why someone should be killed for their faith.

Anygunanywhere

A good article about ISIS and the Wahabisim and History of Saudi Family and who supports who?
In this article, you would note how Wahabist came to kill Muslims first and foremost.

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anygunanywhere wrote: Most of all I do not now and never have understood why someone should be killed for their faith.

Anygunanywhere

I don't understand that either. History teaches us that we kill because people don't look the same, have different faith, and too-numerous to mention other reasons that make absolutely no sense.
Personally, I don't blame the religion.. Bad guys are bad guys, no matter what they say motivates them.

cb1000rider wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote: Most of all I do not now and never have understood why someone should be killed for their faith.

Anygunanywhere

I don't understand that either. History teaches us that we kill because people don't look the same, have different faith, and too-numerous to mention other reasons that make absolutely no sense.
Personally, I don't blame the religion.. Bad guys are bad guys, no matter what they say motivates them.

The problem, as I see it, is that many bad people think they are good people or are doing something (the killing) for a good reason.

Beiruty wrote:Current Administration has a messed up foreign policy. Why Libya was attacked Because Obama wasn't afraid of Qaddafi but not Syria? Because Obama is afraid of Putin Let us forget about Bashar for second why is it so tough to unleash hellfire campaign and tomahawk shock and awe on ISIS?

There you go.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is a Washington Post editorial.

Who would have thought we would ever see this from the Washington Post.

I was thinking, wouldn't ISIS attack New York again. Why would they attack the Southern border. Then I realized. They could in force come across at El Paso, kill couple hundred people on the other side of the bridge and then go back to Mexico again. It would take us probably five or six hours to respond, by then they would have left. But they would take back with them the beheading videos of innocent American's dieing on American soil. What a coup for them and their propaganda machine.

Maybe after that, we would have a strategy.

One positive that would come out of this. If it happens, amnesty would be DOA in Congress and Obama would be in serious political trouble if he tried to use his pen to grant amnesty. If it does happen, I hope the residents of El Paso are ready, and I hope they kill a lot of jihadists.