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Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:47 am
by Jason K
CONFIRMED: Senate Republican Leaders Paid for Attacks Against Conservatives

http://www.redstate.com/2014/07/15/conf ... ervatives/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Notice any familiar names?......

.....I did. :rules:

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:50 am
by Right2Carry
Jason K wrote:CONFIRMED: Senate Republican Leaders Paid for Attacks Against Conservatives

http://www.redstate.com/2014/07/15/conf ... ervatives/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Notice any familiar names?......

.....I did. :rules:
As if I needed another reason to despise John Cornyn.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:08 pm
by mojo84
I'm having trouble seeing where Cornyn donated $50,000 in the links to support the article. :headscratch

Can someone help?

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:20 pm
by baldeagle
mojo84 wrote:I'm having trouble seeing where Cornyn donated $50,000 in the links to support the article. :headscratch

Can someone help?
Is this a serious question? Because it's right in the article.

Cornyn gave $50,000 to Mississippi Conservatives which gave $144,000+ to All Citizens of Mississippi which used race-baiting ads to drive voters to the polls to vote for Thad Cochran. It hasn't yet been confirmed, but they also may have paid for TV ads that promoted Cochran's long record of bringing home the bacon. It has been confirmed that they paid for very offensive race-baiting robocalls that claimed that if McDaniel was elected he would take away food stamps and defund historically black colleges in Mississippi.

You can find many of the details on http://www.gotnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:25 pm
by mojo84
baldeagle wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I'm having trouble seeing where Cornyn donated $50,000 in the links to support the article. :headscratch

Can someone help?
Is this a serious question? Because it's right in the article.

Cornyn gave $50,000 to Mississippi Conservatives which gave $144,000+ to All Citizens of Mississippi which used race-baiting ads to drive voters to the polls to vote for Thad Cochran. It hasn't yet been confirmed, but they also may have paid for TV ads that promoted Cochran's long record of bringing home the bacon. It has been confirmed that they paid for very offensive race-baiting robocalls that claimed that if McDaniel was elected he would take away food stamps and defund historically black colleges in Mississippi.

You can find many of the details on http://www.gotnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
It's a dead serious question. The links to the backup data didn't support what the article said, at least what I saw. Are you taking the article at face value just because it's supposed to be a conservative media outlet?

Are you one to believe everything just because it's on the internet? Did you even look at the links? I may have overlooked something and that's why I asked the question.

I reread the article and it did not day Cornyn gave $50,000 as the second poster in this thread asserts.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:44 pm
by Right2Carry
mojo84 wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I'm having trouble seeing where Cornyn donated $50,000 in the links to support the article. :headscratch

Can someone help?
Is this a serious question? Because it's right in the article.

Cornyn gave $50,000 to Mississippi Conservatives which gave $144,000+ to All Citizens of Mississippi which used race-baiting ads to drive voters to the polls to vote for Thad Cochran. It hasn't yet been confirmed, but they also may have paid for TV ads that promoted Cochran's long record of bringing home the bacon. It has been confirmed that they paid for very offensive race-baiting robocalls that claimed that if McDaniel was elected he would take away food stamps and defund historically black colleges in Mississippi.

You can find many of the details on http://www.gotnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.


It's a dead serious question. The links to the backup data didn't support what the article said, at least what I saw. Are you taking the article at face value just because it's supposed to be a conservative media outlet?

Are you one to believe everything just because it's on the internet? Did you even look at the links? I may have overlooked something and that's why I asked the question.

I reread the article and it did not day Cornyn gave $50,000 as the second poster in this thread asserts.
You didn't look very hard.

Mississippi Conservatives, in turn, was funded in part by Sally Bradshaw of the RNC’s Growth and Opportunity Project, former RNC Chairman and Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, the United States Chamber of Commerce, and the political action committees created for Senators Mitch McConnell ($50,000), John Cornyn ($50,000), Rob Portman ($25,000), Bob Corker ($25,000), and Roy Blunt ($5,000).

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:49 pm
by mojo84
Right2Carry wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I'm having trouble seeing where Cornyn donated $50,000 in the links to support the article. :headscratch

Can someone help?
Is this a serious question? Because it's right in the article.

Cornyn gave $50,000 to Mississippi Conservatives which gave $144,000+ to All Citizens of Mississippi which used race-baiting ads to drive voters to the polls to vote for Thad Cochran. It hasn't yet been confirmed, but they also may have paid for TV ads that promoted Cochran's long record of bringing home the bacon. It has been confirmed that they paid for very offensive race-baiting robocalls that claimed that if McDaniel was elected he would take away food stamps and defund historically black colleges in Mississippi.

You can find many of the details on http://www.gotnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.


It's a dead serious question. The links to the backup data didn't support what the article said, at least what I saw. Are you taking the article at face value just because it's supposed to be a conservative media outlet?

Are you one to believe everything just because it's on the internet? Did you even look at the links? I may have overlooked something and that's why I asked the question.

I reread the article and it did not day Cornyn gave $50,000 as the second poster in this thread asserts.
You didn't look very hard.

Mississippi Conservatives, in turn, was funded in part by Sally Bradshaw of the RNC’s Growth and Opportunity Project, former RNC Chairman and Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, the United States Chamber of Commerce, and the political action committees created for Senators Mitch McConnell ($50,000), John Cornyn ($50,000), Rob Portman ($25,000), Bob Corker ($25,000), and Roy Blunt ($5,000).

The money was donated by a political action committee, NOT Cornyn. Can you or baldeagle show me where the political action committee equals Cornyn?
the political action committees created for Senators Mitch McConnell ($50,000), John Cornyn ($50,000),
I'm not a big Cornyn fan either but I do not think we should promote misinformation.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:04 pm
by Right2Carry
mojo84 wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I'm having trouble seeing where Cornyn donated $50,000 in the links to support the article. :headscratch

Can someone help?
Is this a serious question? Because it's right in the article.

Cornyn gave $50,000 to Mississippi Conservatives which gave $144,000+ to All Citizens of Mississippi which used race-baiting ads to drive voters to the polls to vote for Thad Cochran. It hasn't yet been confirmed, but they also may have paid for TV ads that promoted Cochran's long record of bringing home the bacon. It has been confirmed that they paid for very offensive race-baiting robocalls that claimed that if McDaniel was elected he would take away food stamps and defund historically black colleges in Mississippi.

You can find many of the details on http://www.gotnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.


It's a dead serious question. The links to the backup data didn't support what the article said, at least what I saw. Are you taking the article at face value just because it's supposed to be a conservative media outlet?

Are you one to believe everything just because it's on the internet? Did you even look at the links? I may have overlooked something and that's why I asked the question.

I reread the article and it did not day Cornyn gave $50,000 as the second poster in this thread asserts.
You didn't look very hard.

Mississippi Conservatives, in turn, was funded in part by Sally Bradshaw of the RNC’s Growth and Opportunity Project, former RNC Chairman and Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, the United States Chamber of Commerce, and the political action committees created for Senators Mitch McConnell ($50,000), John Cornyn ($50,000), Rob Portman ($25,000), Bob Corker ($25,000), and Roy Blunt ($5,000).

The money was donated by a political action committee, NOT Cornyn. Can you or baldeagle show me where the political action committee equals Cornyn?
the political action committees created for Senators Mitch McConnell ($50,000), John Cornyn ($50,000),
I'm not a big Cornyn fan either but I do not think we should promote misinformation.
I am sure it was Cornyn's PAC that donated the money in his name. Cornyn is a RINO and always has been. This doesn't surprise me in the least since he basically disowned Ted Cruz when Cruz was putting up the good fight.

I will leave it to you to prove the artical is wrong. Stop looking for loopholes.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:30 pm
by mojo84
So you are OK with your disdain clouding your judgment? Like I said, the support and data provided does not support your assertion that the money came from Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC". Him being a " rino" doesn't prove your point either.bi wasn't looking for "loopholes" was just trying to verify what the article and you were saying and I couldn't.

I don't think you can prove it was Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC" because if you could, you would have.


Hopefully others don't just assume what they read on the interwebs as being true.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:49 am
by Right2Carry
mojo84 wrote:So you are OK with your disdain clouding your judgment? Like I said, the support and data provided does not support your assertion that the money came from Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC". Him being a " rino" doesn't prove your point either.bi wasn't looking for "loopholes" was just trying to verify what the article and you were saying and I couldn't.

I don't think you can prove it was Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC" because if you could, you would have.


Hopefully others don't just assume what they read on the interwebs as being true.
Actually it looks like you can't prove it didn't come from Cornyn or his PAC. The article stands on its own until you can prove otherwise.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:14 am
by SC1903A3
Texan's for a Conservative Majority which gave the $50,000 is a Super PAC that supports John Cornyn. He may very well not be involved but, the association with him does no good.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:20 am
by Right2Carry
SC1903A3 wrote:Texan's for a Conservative Majority which gave the $50,000 is a Super PAC that supports John Cornyn. He may very well not be involved but, the association with him does no good.
Correct. Look who runs the superpac.

The PAC’s president is Randy Cubriel, an Austin-based lawyer and lobbyist who served as Cornyn’s traveling aide on the 2002 campaign. He also worked for Cornyn at the state Attorney General’s office and later as a U.S. Senate aide.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/ ... -majority/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:35 am
by EEllis
Right2Carry wrote:
mojo84 wrote:So you are OK with your disdain clouding your judgment? Like I said, the support and data provided does not support your assertion that the money came from Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC". Him being a " rino" doesn't prove your point either.bi wasn't looking for "loopholes" was just trying to verify what the article and you were saying and I couldn't.

I don't think you can prove it was Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC" because if you could, you would have.


Hopefully others don't just assume what they read on the interwebs as being true.
Actually it looks like you can't prove it didn't come from Cornyn or his PAC. The article stands on its own until you can prove otherwise.
So you beat your wife until you can prove otherwise? That's an absurd statement. Does he also have to prove that the moon landings were real because I saw an article on the internet the other day that swore they were fake.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:03 am
by baldeagle
mojo84 wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
mojo84 wrote:I'm having trouble seeing where Cornyn donated $50,000 in the links to support the article. :headscratch

Can someone help?
Is this a serious question? Because it's right in the article.

Cornyn gave $50,000 to Mississippi Conservatives which gave $144,000+ to All Citizens of Mississippi which used race-baiting ads to drive voters to the polls to vote for Thad Cochran. It hasn't yet been confirmed, but they also may have paid for TV ads that promoted Cochran's long record of bringing home the bacon. It has been confirmed that they paid for very offensive race-baiting robocalls that claimed that if McDaniel was elected he would take away food stamps and defund historically black colleges in Mississippi.

You can find many of the details on http://www.gotnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
It's a dead serious question. The links to the backup data didn't support what the article said, at least what I saw. Are you taking the article at face value just because it's supposed to be a conservative media outlet?
No. I've been following the MS Senate race closely and have read all of the FEC documents that have been released as well as numerous articles from local MS papers that are clearly not pro-Tea Party. I have also been following the race on Twitter and have corresponded with Charles Johnson, the reporter who broke the story, and have contributed to one of his articles (unrelated to the issue of whether Cornyn gave money.)
mojo84 wrote:Are you one to believe everything just because it's on the internet? Did you even look at the links? I may have overlooked something and that's why I asked the question.
I take almost nothing at face value and am constantly looking for primary sources that confirm the story.
mojo84 wrote:I reread the article and it did not day Cornyn gave $50,000 as the second poster in this thread asserts.
Well, I suggest you read the third paragraph again.
Mississippi Conservatives, in turn, was funded in part by Sally Bradshaw of the RNC’s Growth and Opportunity Project, former RNC Chairman and Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, the United States Chamber of Commerce, and the political action committees created for Senators Mitch McConnell ($50,000), John Cornyn ($50,000), Rob Portman ($25,000), Bob Corker ($25,000), and Roy Blunt ($5,000).
Cornyn gave the money, and he's also supporting Pat Roberts (KS) against his Tea Party opponent. I'm very disappointed in Cornyn. He seems to have been infected with DC disease.

Re: Republicans Against The Tea Party: Part Deux

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:24 am
by baldeagle
mojo84 wrote:So you are OK with your disdain clouding your judgment? Like I said, the support and data provided does not support your assertion that the money came from Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC". Him being a " rino" doesn't prove your point either.bi wasn't looking for "loopholes" was just trying to verify what the article and you were saying and I couldn't.

I don't think you can prove it was Cornyn or "Cornyn's PAC" because if you could, you would have.


Hopefully others don't just assume what they read on the interwebs as being true.
Would you accept it if the Washington Post reported it? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... -save-him/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe Breitbart is too right wing for you? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... Fundraiser" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... Fundraiser" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This one claims Cornyn gave $15,000 http://www.senateconservatives.com/site ... e-enablers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's the NY Times reporting on the money but not who gave it http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/upsho ... .html?_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's the question you need to ask yourself. Why should sitting Senators take a position in a primary race? Shouldn't they let the Republican voters of that state decide who they want to represent them? And why is it OK for US Senators to pay for race-baiting ads to defeat an incumbent's challenger?