CSGV Continues Attack on PC Sec. 30.06

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They're like a dog with a bone:

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[mr1337]

I find it interesting that the Facebook group complains about us keeping track of what signs are legal, and which ones are not. In the law, it is very clearly spelled out, the exact criteria for creating a valid sign. It's not complicated. 1" wording on a contrasting surface, this specific verbiage, in both English and Spanish in an inconspicuous place. It's not rocket surgery.

If those businesses wanted to comply with the law, they need to read it, not just order a sign they hope will be valid.

[JP171]

the only reason they are doing this is to cause trouble, be the squeaky wheel. They want attention plain and simple, misery loves company. I do think its hypocritical of them wanting us to obey a law that doesn't exist but not make the public accommodations follow the law.

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I do think its hypocritical of them wanting us to obey a law that doesn't exist but not make the public accommodations follow the law.

Well said.

[sjfcontrol]

I find it interesting that the Facebook group complains about us keeping track of what signs are legal, and which ones are not. In the law, it is very clearly spelled out, the exact criteria for creating a valid sign. It's not complicated. 1" wording on a contrasting surface, this specific verbiage, in both English and Spanish in an inconspicuous place. It's not rocket surgery.

If those businesses wanted to comply with the law, they need to read it, not just order a sign they hope will be valid.

That should be "conspicuous", not "inconspicuous".

(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

[Jaguar]

There is this weird progressive thing now that social media has made so much worse where being offended is a sign of virtue. The better person you are the more outraged and miserable you are all of the time. That is a bizarre way to go through life but it fits perfectly with fallacious syllogism: “Those mean libertarians and republicans” they suppose “wanting places to have to post the exact sign cited by law to prevent them from carrying a pistol, therefore they must want to murder children.” If this were truly the case there would be a reason to be outraged. But instead there are differing where and why to carry a pistol.

The same fallacious syllogism is used in nearly every liberal argument, if you oppose minimum wage increases they believe you want the poor to live in filth and die, not that you believe the minimum wage prices low skilled workers out of employment and makes more people poor. If you oppose taxes on the "wealthy" (high income earners actually, not wealth) than you believe the rich should get richer and poor should get poorer, not that you believe the free market is a better mode to rise people out of poverty than government programs. The list goes on, but if you demonize your opponent instead of discuss the issues and proposed solutions, you cannot be outraged, holier than your opponent, hold the high ground, moral posture, and be generally superior to your opponent.

My sister and her partner use this tactic all the time and are outraged all the time. I call them out on it but it does no good. Now I just say, "Sisters of perpetual aggrievance" and go on.

[mojo84]

Jeff Bredehorn
Can't we get a sane group of people in TX to print up some "technically correct" signs and then go around putting them up correctly at these businesses? (With their permission of course). I would help fund this.
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[jimlongley]

I must have said something they didn't like, they don't let me comment anymore.

[mojo84]

I must have said something they didn't like, they don't let me comment anymore.

Join the club.

[SQLGeek]

From reading the comments, most of those people seem to think this is in regard to open carry.

I've always loved the question "Why do you need a gun in [fill in the blank]?" As if by the very virtue of the location that it wasn't possible for bad and violent things to happen there.

[MeMelYup]

Need to go on their web site and suggest that to show solidarity everyone attach a no guns bumper sticker in their vehicles.

[Oldgringo]

I read some of their comments. Their comments are about as stupid and self-serving as are the antics of clowns who parade around with long guns on their shoulders in Target, etc.

[jmra]

I read some of their comments. Their comments are about as stupid and self-serving as are the antics of clowns who parade around with long guns on their shoulders in Target, etc.

Fanatics.

[esxmarkc]

Sadly, I read each and every comment.

The lack of education on concealed carry and it's intent, the incredible track record of CHL holders and the fact that they likely stand next to armed CHL soccer moms in the checkout line at the local supermarket every week are all ideas to which they are totally oblivious.

All they can ask is "Why would anyone need to carry a weapon into a restaurant targeted toward kids entertainment?"

I can guarantee that these are all people that if posed with the question: "Who is responsible for the safety and well being of your spouse and children?" They would answer "The police." These are the type of people that believe someone else or some magic entity is in control of everything important in their lives.

The safety and well being of my family is my responsibility - and this is why I carry. This most basic and simple idea is as foreign to these people as quantum physics is to a goat.

Here in Texas we have built massive internationally respected medical centers, landed men on the moon, pioneered the development of integrated circuits and continue to pioneer methods that produce the lions share of energy that runs this country yet they see us as knuckle dragging neanderthals.

How do you reach these people? Why are they so alienated from the core basic principles of self-reliability and self-accountability that make up the cornerstone of what it means to be free?

[JP171]

Sadly, I read each and every comment.

The lack of education on concealed carry and it's intent, the incredible track record of CHL holders and the fact that they likely stand next to and armed CHL soccer moms in the checkout line at the local supermarket every week are all ideas to which they are totally oblivious.

All they can ask is "Why would anyone need to carry a weapon into a restaurant targeted toward kids entertainment?"

I can guarantee that these are all people that if posed with the question: "Who is responsible for the safety and well being of your spouse and children?" They would answer "The police." These are the type of people that believe someone else or some magic entity is in control of everything important in their lives.

The safety and well being of my family is my responsibility - and this is why I carry. This most basic and simple idea is as foreign to these people as quantum physics is to a goat.

Here in Texas we have built massive internationally respected medical centers, landed men on the moon, pioneered the development of integrated circuits and continue to pioneer methods that produce the lions share of energy that runs this country yet they see us as knuckle dragging neanderthals.

How do you reach these people? Why are they so alienated from the core basic principles of self-reliability and self-accountability that make up the cornerstone of what it means to be free?

You don't. They have been willingly programed to behave a certain way very much like Pavlov's dogs, since the programming was willing it is most certainly irreversible. This type of thinking behavior is the same as what Jim Jones did in Guyana and nothing any of us are able to do will change it, you can look up the statistics on cults and find that its something like less than 3 percent can ever be helped to recover from the psychological and emotional programming that is done at most of them, simply because its willing and not forced