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Gun-related homicide in Texas is down since concealed-carry
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:39 pm
by texanjoker
Headline says it all. Dang Statesman only shows part of the article. I searched the net and found a 2nd link with more info.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stateme ... e-third-1/
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/poli ... n-s/nb7hw/
Re: Gun-related homicide in Texas is down since concealed-ca
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:11 pm
by K.Mooneyham
I love how the "Politifact" article sounded saddened that they had to rate Jerry Patterson's comments as "Mostly True". They sure tried to spin it away, but it just didn't work for them.
Re: Gun-related homicide in Texas is down since concealed-ca
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:42 pm
by ELB
In news stories from the 1995 regular legislative session, Austin Democratic Rep. Sherri Greenberg predicted gunplay in hospital emergency rooms and Dallas lawmakers said frustrated drivers would shoot each other in traffic. A March 16, 1995, Houston Chronicle news story quoted then-Sen. Greg Luna, D-San Antonio, as saying, "It is going to be a much more dangerous and deadly society we have imposed on ourselves in Texas."
Heh.

Re: Gun-related homicide in Texas is down since concealed-ca
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:27 pm
by chasfm11
ELB wrote:In news stories from the 1995 regular legislative session, Austin Democratic Rep. Sherri Greenberg predicted gunplay in hospital emergency rooms and Dallas lawmakers said frustrated drivers would shoot each other in traffic. A March 16, 1995, Houston Chronicle news story quoted then-Sen. Greg Luna, D-San Antonio, as saying, "It is going to be a much more dangerous and deadly society we have imposed on ourselves in Texas."
Heh.

This is the real point to be made here. The Libs predicted carnage to an extraordinary degree - and what happened was the exact opposite. The "dangerous society" never materialized. Just because there is no scientific cause-effect relationship between the decline in homicides and the advent of concealed carry doesn't change the FACT that the gun haters were wrong, wrong, wrong in all of their inflamed rhetoric.
Concealed carry is not likely to change the criminal behavior of the the small minority who do it. That group exists in every society, guns or not. What CC does do is to allow those who want to defend themselves from the criminal element to do so - and at absolutely no additional risk to society. But most of the gun haters don't care about society. They want control and will do anything to try to obtain that control.
Re: Gun-related homicide in Texas is down since concealed-ca
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:32 am
by mgood
They've predicted "blood in the streets" in every state that considered concealed carry laws.
It hasn't happened anywhere.
But every time we try to loosen the firearm restrictions, by allowing carry in more places such as "campus carry" or allowing something such as open carry or when we were pushing for the employee parking lot bill, they trot out the same tired arguments about how we're going to shoot each other every time someone gets angry.
And it just doesn't happen.
Re: Gun-related homicide in Texas is down since concealed-ca
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:12 pm
by gthaustex
mgood wrote:They've predicted "blood in the streets" in every state that considered concealed carry laws.
It hasn't happened anywhere.
But every time we try to loosen the firearm restrictions, by allowing carry in more places such as "campus carry" or allowing something such as open carry or when we were pushing for the employee parking lot bill, they trot out the same tired arguments about how we're going to shoot each other every time someone gets angry.
And it just doesn't happen.
That's because on the whole, people who qualify for a license are among the most law abiding individuals out there. Not surprising at all. We, unlike the antis, understand the awesome responsibility of carrying a firearm and the potential ramifications for doing so. Nothing about the decision to carry is knee-jerk, unlike the reactions of most antis out there....