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After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:47 pm
by ELB
Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said today the U.S. and the rest of the democratic world is at a security crossroads in the wake of last month's deadly al-Shabab attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya – and suggested an answer could be in arming civilians.
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"Societies have to think about how they're going to approach the problem," Noble said. "One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you're going to have to pass through extraordinary security."
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The secretary general, an American who previously headed up all law enforcement for the U.S. Treasury Department, told reporters during a brief news conference that the Westgate mall attack marks what has long been seen as "an evolution in terrorism." Instead of targets like the Pentagon and World Trade Center that now have far more security since 9/11, attackers are focusing on sites with little security that attract large numbers of people.
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"For me it's a profound question," he continued. "People are quick to say 'gun control, people shouldn't be armed,' etc., etc. I think they have to ask themselves: 'Where would you have wanted to be? In a city where there was gun control and no citizens armed if you're in a Westgate mall, or in a place like Denver or Texas?'"
I dunno how the Interpol Chief gets his job, but I will bet that the current US Administration and the Euros make it a task to get this guy booted.
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Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:44 pm
by JP171
ELB wrote:Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said today the U.S. and the rest of the democratic world is at a security crossroads in the wake of last month's deadly al-Shabab attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya – and suggested an answer could be in arming civilians.
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"Societies have to think about how they're going to approach the problem," Noble said. "One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you're going to have to pass through extraordinary security."
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The secretary general, an American who previously headed up all law enforcement for the U.S. Treasury Department, told reporters during a brief news conference that the Westgate mall attack marks what has long been seen as "an evolution in terrorism." Instead of targets like the Pentagon and World Trade Center that now have far more security since 9/11, attackers are focusing on sites with little security that attract large numbers of people.
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"For me it's a profound question," he continued. "People are quick to say 'gun control, people shouldn't be armed,' etc., etc. I think they have to ask themselves: 'Where would you have wanted to be? In a city where there was gun control and no citizens armed if you're in a Westgate mall, or in a place like Denver or Texas?'"
I dunno how the Interpol Chief gets his job, but I will bet that the current US Administration and the Euros make it a task to get this guy booted.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive ... ePage=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
why would you want to boot him? it sounds like to me that he just may be advocating an armed citizenry to the world at large.
Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:39 am
by Dave2
JP171 wrote:ELB wrote:"For me it's a profound question," he continued. "People are quick to say 'gun control, people shouldn't be armed,' etc., etc. I think they have to ask themselves: 'Where would you have wanted to be? In a city where there was gun control and no citizens armed if you're in a Westgate mall, or in a place like Denver or Texas?'"
I dunno how the Interpol Chief gets his job, but I will bet that the current US Administration and the Euros make it a task to get this guy booted.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive ... ePage=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
why would you want to boot him? it sounds like to me that he just may be advocating an armed citizenry to the world at large.
"the current US Administration and the Euros" would want him booted because "he just may be advocating an armed citizenry to the world at large".
Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:22 pm
by gthaustex
Yep...if he isn't toeing the no guns for citizens line, he will probably have people after his job. Then again, it is Interpol and not the UN...who knows.
Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:48 pm
by MeMelYup
ELB wrote: 1. Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said today the U.S. and the rest of the democratic world is at a security crossroads in the wake of last month's deadly al-Shabab attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya – and suggested an answer could be in arming civilians.
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2. "Societies have to think about how they're going to approach the problem," Noble said. "One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you're going to have to pass through extraordinary security."
Number two did not work for DC Navel Yard one several schools and colleges. The only COMMON SENSE plan would be number 1. I don't think some of our politicians will be able to understand the concept.
Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:54 pm
by The Annoyed Man
MeMelYup wrote:ELB wrote: 1. Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said today the U.S. and the rest of the democratic world is at a security crossroads in the wake of last month's deadly al-Shabab attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya – and suggested an answer could be in arming civilians.
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2. "Societies have to think about how they're going to approach the problem," Noble said. "One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you're going to have to pass through extraordinary security."
Number two did not work for DC Navel Yard one several schools and colleges. The only COMMON SENSE plan would be number 1. I don't think some of our politicians will be able to understand the concept.
Oh, they can understand the concept. They are just terrified by it because an armed citizenry is difficult to cow.
Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:03 pm
by MeMelYup
The Annoyed Man wrote:MeMelYup wrote:ELB wrote: 1. Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said today the U.S. and the rest of the democratic world is at a security crossroads in the wake of last month's deadly al-Shabab attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya – and suggested an answer could be in arming civilians.
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2. "Societies have to think about how they're going to approach the problem," Noble said. "One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you're going to have to pass through extraordinary security."
Number two did not work for DC Navel Yard one several schools and colleges. The only COMMON SENSE plan would be number 1. I don't think some of our politicians will be able to understand the concept.
Oh, they can understand the concept. They are just terrified by it because an armed citizenry is difficult to cow.
I thought that was the idea of an armed society, being difficult to cow.
Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:40 pm
by ELB
Dave2 wrote:...
"the current US Administration and the Euros" would want him booted because "he just may be advocating an armed citizenry to the world at large".
'zackly. Remember, current Secretary of State John Kerry -- whose lies are
seared -- seared -- in' his memory -
signed the UN treaty on small arms, claiming it protects gun rights.
Re: After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders 'Armed Citizenry'
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:07 pm
by RogueUSMC
MeMelYup wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:MeMelYup wrote:ELB wrote: 1. Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said today the U.S. and the rest of the democratic world is at a security crossroads in the wake of last month's deadly al-Shabab attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya – and suggested an answer could be in arming civilians.
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2. "Societies have to think about how they're going to approach the problem," Noble said. "One is to say we want an armed citizenry; you can see the reason for that. Another is to say the enclaves are so secure that in order to get into the soft target you're going to have to pass through extraordinary security."
Number two did not work for DC Navel Yard one several schools and colleges. The only COMMON SENSE plan would be number 1. I don't think some of our politicians will be able to understand the concept.
Oh, they can understand the concept. They are just terrified by it because an armed citizenry is difficult to cow.
I thought that was the idea of an armed society, being difficult to cow.
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