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The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:41 am
by tommyg
Gun owners made a big mistake when they swarmed Starbuck's carrying guns to protest a boycott
started by the anti crowd. A much better approach would be to quietly go into your local
Starbuck's and buy as many of their products that you can afford. Keep in mind that Starbuck's
wants to sell coffee not get into the gun issue. If their sales go up then they will ignore the boycott.
If their sales go down then they will give in to the boycott. Remember Starbuck's is in it for the
money not the gun issue.

When some gun owners went in to Starbuck's carrying guns it made the anti gun crown more intent
on getting guns out of Starbuck's. Gun Owners inadvertently started a trend of no guns in stores.
This trend is likely to spread all over the country.They also ran off many liberal
customers with their guns and the liberal money is as good as ours.

Now think about it a buycott is the most effective way to make a boycott back fire. Don't ever try to
inflame a bunch of liberals by rubbing guns in their faces in a retail business. Save the rubbing guns
in liberal faces for protests at the capitol and pro gun marches.

Never buy anything from any business with a valid 3006 sign. Remember a gun buster
sign may well have been put up by someone on our side to placate the liberals to get their business. All of us
know that a gun buster does not mean anything. And always remember concealed is concealed
Please don't fall into this trap set by the anti-gun crowd they are severely brain washes but they
are dangerous and some of them are smart in some ways . A brain washed person is not necessarily stupid.
The brain washed are capable of plotting against us. Please think before you act :rules:

Re: The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:01 am
by jmra
:iagree:
When the owner of Chick-fil-A came under attack for his statements about marriage, those who supported him didn't visually display their heterosexualness. They showed their support the best way possible, by showing their collective purchasing power.
This would have been a much better approach in showing Starbucks appreciation for the previous policy. I also believe that had long guns never entered the equation, the policy would not have been changed.

Re: The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:34 am
by o b juan
seeing a person walking around with a rifle/shotgun strapped over his shoulder or across his back in public in civilian
clothing would make me think he might be a guerilla or a NUT :headscratch

Re: The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:05 am
by Jumping Frog
o b juan wrote:seeing a person walking around with a rifle/shotgun strapped over his shoulder or across his back in public in civilian
clothing would make me think he might be a guerilla or a NUT :headscratch
The only exception in an urban environment that I can think of is when it is a scheduled political 2A protest on statehouse or government property. Then it is a 1st Amendment issue. For example, the MAIG counter-protest in Columbus OH organized by the NRA and Buckeye Firearms Association a few weeks ago. It made the national news.

But I make a huge distinction between political actions on public property versus getting into conflict with private businesses.

Re: The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:09 am
by jimlongley
tommyg wrote:Gun owners made a big mistake when they swarmed Starbuck's carrying guns to protest a boycott
started by the anti crowd. A much better approach would be to quietly go into your local
Starbuck's and buy as many of their products that you can afford. Keep in mind that Starbuck's
wants to sell coffee not get into the gun issue. If their sales go up then they will ignore the boycott.
If their sales go down then they will give in to the boycott. Remember Starbuck's is in it for the
money not the gun issue.

When some gun owners went in to Starbuck's carrying guns it made the anti gun crown more intent
on getting guns out of Starbuck's. Gun Owners inadvertently started a trend of no guns in stores.
This trend is likely to spread all over the country.They also ran off many liberal
customers with their guns and the liberal money is as good as ours.

Now think about it a buycott is the most effective way to make a boycott back fire. Don't ever try to
inflame a bunch of liberals by rubbing guns in their faces in a retail business. Save the rubbing guns
in liberal faces for protests at the capitol and pro gun marches.

Never buy anything from any business with a valid 3006 sign. Remember a gun buster
sign may well have been put up by someone on our side to placate the liberals to get their business. All of us
know that a gun buster does not mean anything. And always remember concealed is concealed
Please don't fall into this trap set by the anti-gun crowd they are severely brain washes but they
are dangerous and some of them are smart in some ways . A brain washed person is not necessarily stupid.
The brain washed are capable of plotting against us. Please think before you act :rules:
I, and several other people that I know, went to Starbucks on that "appreciation day" and some paid with the significant $2.00 bills, but no one seemed to notice that we were carrying, just as no one seemed to notice the supposed boycott.

The mistake was made by people who thought that Starbucks' neutral attitude was actually welcoming and they should show off their ignorance by open carrying. But that did not happen on the appreciation day.

I never shop at a place that has a valid 30.06 sign, and I let them know why, and I avoid places with invalid signs because I think it is just as likely that they are not knowledgeable enough to know that the invalid sign is unenforceable, and that the police are just as likely to arrest someone for a different violation even if the person was carrying legally, and I let those places know why too. I am sorry if it offends those of you that think that you are either getting away with something, or that it is a tacit way for business owners to placate the liberals, but after discussing it with several business owners I have found none that are appeasers, several that think that their sign banning ALL guns is just as effective as a valid 30.06, and a few that actually didn't think about it at all. And not one of them followed up by putting up a valid 30.06, although a couple did take down their invalid signs.

Re: The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:51 am
by cw3van
I keep hearing folks talk about invalid signs & gun buster signs as being unenforceable I have ask this question before but will do so again. Can a LEO who believes that in his opinion the sign gave you effective notice not to carry in the business arrest you? :txflag:

Re: The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:28 pm
by MoJo
cw3van wrote:I keep hearing folks talk about invalid signs & gun buster signs as being unenforceable I have ask this question before but will do so again. Can a LEO who believes that in his opinion the sign gave you effective notice not to carry in the business arrest you? :txflag:
In a word YES will the charge stick? Probably not. Can you be charged with something else (resisting arrest, disturbing the peace etc.)? Yes will those charges stick? Probably.

Concealed means concealed I avoid all 30.06 locations possible there are a few doctor, hospital that I can't. I consider the gun buster et al as a wannabe 30.06 and don't do business with them. :tiphat:

Re: The StarBuck's Mistake

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:53 pm
by gringo pistolero
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