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Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:22 am
by jmain
Little bits at a time:

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:mad5

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:34 am
by couzin
"However, felons, domestic abusers, and others prohibited from having guns can easily evade the required background check and gain access to machine guns or other particularly dangerous weapons by registering the weapon to a trust or corporation."

Uhh - since when do criminal types bother to register their weapons? This EO is typical Obama rhetoric and only meant to satisfy the anti-firearm crowd's whimpering.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:14 am
by Kythas
At least we don't have to worry about all those M1 Garands out on the streets. We all know those are the favored gang banger firearm.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:27 pm
by CoffeeNut
"This new policy will help keep military-grade firearms off our streets."

Yet the ATF acknowledges that these "military style assault weapons" only show up at less than 3% of all crimes and I have never seen a gang drive by done with anything that is re-imported by the CMP.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:37 pm
by zajones08
Does anybody know if the NFA related portion goes into effect emediately? If not, how long? And also, if I submit paperwork before it goes into effect will it still be approved?

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:15 pm
by RPBrown
couzin wrote:"However, felons, domestic abusers, and others prohibited from having guns can easily evade the required background check and gain access to machine guns or other particularly dangerous weapons by registering the weapon to a trust or corporation."

Uhh - since when do criminal types bother to register their weapons? This EO is typical Obama rhetoric and only meant to satisfy the anti-firearm crowd's whimpering.
This just shows that this administration is full of a bunch of idiots.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:18 pm
by equin
So will this affect the re-importation of WWII era M1 Garands?

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:21 pm
by jmain
zajones08 wrote:Does anybody know if the NFA related portion goes into effect emediately? If not, how long? And also, if I submit paperwork before it goes into effect will it still be approved?

Only difference is trust and corp now go through a background check.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:32 pm
by Dadtodabone
Oh what will all the nefarious criminals do now that their access to $15k and up guns has been eliminated? As though misguided inner-city youths were ever in the market at all. This is just ridiculous on so many levels.............

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:54 pm
by jmain
Dadtodabone wrote:Oh what will all the nefarious criminals do now that their access to $15k and up guns has been eliminated? As though misguided inner-city youths were ever in the market at all. This is just ridiculous on so many levels.............
Yup that was my first thought too, along with wondering how many criminals need a class 3 weapon and are either forming trusts or corporations to utilize the "loophole".

Just stupid.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:09 pm
by powerboatr
basic lip service to those who pander him
re-importation of military grade weapons...wow that really scared me :biggrinjester:

typical of the elite in DC

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:07 pm
by Skiprr
equin wrote:So will this affect the re-importation of WWII era M1 Garands?
Mike Piccione, in an article for the Daily Caller, says that today's executive order would effectively shut down the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:12 pm
by K.Mooneyham
Obviously, the only "military grade firearms" being re-imported in any quantity are M-1 Garands and M-1 Carbines. There are a large number of these in storage in South Korea that some folks tried to bring in a while back. The current administration stopped this, but I guess that was temporary. This new EO pretty much permanently stops them from coming in. Once again, this little childish gesture by the administration just gives me another reason to despise them.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:20 pm
by jmain
My brother has been buying surplus for years in quantity. I always disregarded him buying all the -200 surplus guns... I think he may have just become wealthy.

Re: Executive order adds two new gun measures

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:52 pm
by jmain
So this is what I see as net issue:

From 1903 til today:
Springfield 1903. Garand. M1 carbine. M14. M16

Most of these are dried up and not avail,


So, non issue.


Anyone have a different thought?