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"We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:22 am
by JALLEN
[youtube][/youtube]

Can someone embed this? I give up. The scheme for embedding youtube on this forum is impossibly complex, unusable unless you have the instructions taped to your knee, or your grandmother tells you.

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:34 am
by Dave2
JALLEN wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Can someone embed this? I give up. The scheme for embedding youtube on this forum is impossibly complex, unusable unless you have the instructions taped to your knee, or your grandmother tells you.
You can't embed videos that don't start at the beginning.
[youtube][/youtube]

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:40 am
by RoyGBiv
I'm getting a "video does not exist" error... same if I try directly on YouTube.com

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:41 am
by JALLEN
Dave2 wrote:
JALLEN wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Can someone embed this? I give up. The scheme for embedding youtube on this forum is impossibly complex, unusable unless you have the instructions taped to your knee, or your grandmother tells you.
You can't embed videos that don't start at the beginning.
[youtube][/youtube][/quote]

Who knew? It can be done on other forums. Perhaps a revision would be in order.

I really wish this was cleaned up. Embedding a video is very, very frustrating here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y4zsgym ... e=youtu.be

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:42 am
by Seventhsword
That's the best I can do on this forum..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y4zsgymRxE

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:46 am
by Pawpaw
[youtube][/youtube]

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:49 am
by Dave2
JALLEN wrote:Who knew? It can be done on other forums. Perhaps a revision would be in order.

I really wish this was cleaned up. Embedding a video is very, very frustrating here.
phpBB gets confused around YouTube (to be fair, they've used several formats over the years, and they don't necessarily change all their videos over to the new formats)... There's a private gaming forum I visit that's run by a bunch of nerds, and we ended up writing a custom plugin to make it work the way we wanted it to. I think we submitted the changes back to the phpBB group, but I'd have to double-check to be sure.

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:52 am
by Pawpaw
To embed a youtube video, paste the entire URL between the youtube tags. Then delete the "www.".

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:56 am
by RoyGBiv
I believe it's just the way embedding has been implemented here... combination of the BB software chosen and options settings..
Not sure if the current SW can embed any differently even if Charles chose to do so...

Some of the options choices have to do with bandwidth usage and how the forum is hosted as well... Lots of decisions.
It's a minor inconvenience for me... certainly can be frustrating...

1. Click the "YouTube" button.
2. Paste the full link in between the tags
3. Remove the "www." from the front end (not sure why.. never saw that anywhere else)
4. If the link says "HTTPS", you also need to remove the "S"... just HTTP
5. Nothing can be added following the video's reference number (a start at time, for example).

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:22 pm
by JALLEN
Back to our topic:

Here's the story in a local paper. Looks like they stopped the chief from buying it.
Concord Stops Its Police Chief From Buying a Ridiculous Military Vehicle http://www.theatlanticcities.com/techno ... icle/6544/

Residents of Concord, New Hampshire, accomplished a rare feat earlier this week when they prevented their police chief, if only temporarily, from buying a BearCat.

What's a BearCat, you say? Lenco Armored Vehicles says its best selling truck can "be used as a S.W.A.T. or Military Counter Attack and Rescue Vehicle and is often used in hostile Urban Environments or as a Patrol/Reaction Vehicle on a Military Base." It holds up to 10 people, is cheap to maintain, and can be equipped with the "Mechanical Rotating Turret with Cupola (Tub) and Weapon Ready Mounting System, suitable for the M60, 240B and Mark 19 weapons system."

Protestors held signs that read, "More Mayberry less Fallujah" and "Thanks but no tanks."

In plain English, the BearCat can drive through a hail of bullets, carry a team of soldiers, and be topped — like an ice cream sundae from hell — with either a machine gun or a grenade launcher. It is basically the perfect vehicle for an urban war zone. Concord, New Hampshire, with its population of around 42,600 and a violent crime rate of 227 per 100,000 people, is of course not an urban war zone.

Then again, no town in the United States should theoretically require such weapons, yet cities of every size have them thanks to the Pentagon's congressionally approved "1033 Program." Begun in 1994, the program allows the Department of Defense to donate weapons, vehicles, and equipment to local police departments, regardless of whether they need them (or know how to appropriately use them).

Last year, Concord Police Chief John Duval decided he wanted what other cities have. In Concord's grant application to the Department of Homeland Security, obtained by the New Hampshire Civil Liberties Union, Duval and the city practically had to make up a threat, claiming that while New Hampshire has "not been victimized from a mass casualty event from an international terrorism strike however on the domestic front, the threat is real and here. Groups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire are active and present daily challenges." After the grant application was unearthed by the NHCLU, Duval "said he does not see the groups as domestic terrorists and admitted that the section of the application was poorly worded."

But that wasn't enough. On Monday night, protestors flooded the Concord City Council meeting, both to object to Duval's characterization of Occupy New Hampshire and the Free State Project, and to let lawmakers know they don't want a BearCat in their city. According to the Concord Monitor, protestors held signs that read, "More Mayberry less Fallujah" and "Thanks but no tanks." With 150 protestors squeezed inside the meeting, and others protesting peacefully outside, the council agreed to table its vote.

"It requires much more debate than we have time for tonight," the Monitor reported Councilor Dan St. Hilaire as saying. The city council and its protesters will revisit the BearCat question on Sept. 9.

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:41 pm
by Abraham
What's the chief's rationale?

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:49 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Image of a Bearcat, for those (like me) who didn't know what one is:
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Google Images: CLICK HERE

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:50 pm
by Jaguar
Abraham wrote:What's the chief's rationale?
Groups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire are active and present daily challenges.


Yep, people that want a constitutional government are pesky folks who need a BearCat to keep em in line. :???:

Okay, may the Occupy group warrants an armored vehicle... :smilelol5:

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:59 pm
by Abraham
From what little I know, Sovereign Citizens have significantly violent inclinations... They appear to be a type of neo-anarchists.

I know nothing about Free Staters, but if they're like the S.C. types maybe the chief needs two BearCats...

Re: "We're building a domestic army..."

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:02 pm
by gigag04
Want.