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MoJo wrote:Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

MoJo wrote:Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

From 1919–23, while living in France, Nguyễn began to approach the political path, through his friend and Socialist Party of France comrade Marcel Cachin. Nguyễn claimed to have arrived in Paris from London in 1917, but the French police only had documents of his arrival in June 1919.[7] He joined in a group of Vietnamese nationalists in Paris whose leaders were Phan Chu Trinh and Phan Văn Trường, bearing a new name Nguyễn Ái Quốc (“Nguyễn the Patriot”). Following World War I, the group petitioned for recognition of the civil rights of the Vietnamese people in French Indochina to the Western powers at the Versailles peace talks, but was ignored.[11] Citing the language and the spirit of the U.S. Declaration of Independence, they expected U.S. President Woodrow Wilson to help remove the French colonial rule from Vietnam and ensure the formation of a new, nationalist government. Although they were unable to obtain consideration at Versailles, the failure further radicalized Nguyễn, while also making him a symbol of the anti-colonial movement at home in Vietnam.[12]

In 1920, as a representative in the Congress of Tours of Socialist Party of France, Quốc voted for the Third International and became a founding member of the Parti Communiste Français (FCP). Taking a position in the Colonial Committee of PCF, he tried to attract his comrades' attention towards people in French colonies including Indochina, but his efforts were often unsuccessful. In this period he learned to write journal articles and short stories as well as running his Vietnamese nationalist group.

MoJo wrote:Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

JP171 wrote:

MoJo wrote:Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

too much Chairman Maobama Empress Chelle TV here. Just curious though where did you hear this? what source, I should hope not the libtards at your college because as you know they are in fact libtards and have one agenda to pacify America thru misdirection and obfuscation of the truth and bring us to the enlightened peoples republic of Maobama land

MoJo wrote:

JP171 wrote:

MoJo wrote:Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

too much Chairman Maobama Empress Chelle TV here. Just curious though where did you hear this? what source, I should hope not the libtards at your college because as you know they are in fact libtards and have one agenda to pacify America thru misdirection and obfuscation of the truth and bring us to the enlightened peoples republic of Maobama land

Yes, college, that's where I learned it. Vietnam University class of 1968.

K.Mooneyham wrote:Have you considered that there might have been a significant disinformation campaign running a particular narrative being circulated at that time? Sometimes the smallest things can have an effect on morale. Service members serving a dangerous tour (and once again, I wish to take nothing away from the sacrifices made by those who served there, yourself included) might be made just that tiny bit less effective if they were led to believe they were fighting a war against a "nationalist" who just wanted "democracy for his country" and only went with the Communists because they said they would help him get that. The Soviets and the Chinese, as I gather, were both noted for their excellent propaganda efforts in that regard. The same disinformation campaign would perhaps been even more effective against the ARVN troops. Obviously, I was not there and could be totally wrong, it is just a thought.

MoJo wrote:

JP171 wrote:

MoJo wrote:Contrary to most current and contemporary thinking, Ho Chi Minh wanted a democracy for Vietnam. If the US and other western powers would have backed Ho instead of the French at the end of WWII things could have been different. Unfortunately, the USSR and Red China moved in, and Ho adopted Communism.

too much Chairman Maobama Empress Chelle TV here. Just curious though where did you hear this? what source, I should hope not the libtards at your college because as you know they are in fact libtards and have one agenda to pacify America thru misdirection and obfuscation of the truth and bring us to the enlightened peoples republic of Maobama land

Yes, college, that's where I learned it. Vietnam University class of 1968.

Keith B wrote:I think Obama is a Ho wanna be.